Ridculous Policy: Do I need to buy $L from black market after I joined premium
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Milissa Rossini
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Join date: 6 Jun 2007
Posts: 19
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06-07-2007 04:12
Sorry, I am not surprise but be astonishing that I face a ridiculous on financial problem being a premium. First, my first visa payment for member already let me over the trading limit, so I cannot buy any L for whole one month- depression (x_x)
Allowance is also delayed, and I also cannot unable to access Athen to find my small land. Today, I have forfeited payment for dancing. There is no job security here too.
Is there anyway to overcome this? I don't want to be a dancer day and night, even it better than cleaner.
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Rocketman Raymaker
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Join date: 4 Feb 2007
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06-07-2007 04:36
YOu can buy $L on the SLexchange website which is not the black market and as far as i know is the only place endorsed by linden labs.
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Milissa Rossini
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Join date: 6 Jun 2007
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Anti-customer-care System Desing: I know but they don't allow me to buy with 30 days
06-07-2007 06:15
From: Rocketman Raymaker YOu can buy $L on the SLexchange website which is not the black market and as far as i know is the only place endorsed by linden labs. Because my visa payment for premium annual fees is counted into the trading rule. In the face of the wording, there is no contradiction, but it is real stupid in human sense. "Why member fees include into the trading limit for exchange?" I feel somehow degraded my level after I joined member. Sometime, I think it is too late for me to remorse when one paid carelessly- caveat emptor. I can expect my coming month in living in SL poorly. Sorry, I may be straight. I will praise for good and fright for the unreasonable in human sense. I hope this can increase the business quality of SL. Cheers, Milissa Rossini
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Milissa Rossini
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Sorry for overlook Slexchange
06-07-2007 06:18
From: Rocketman Raymaker YOu can buy $L on the SLexchange website which is not the black market and as far as i know is the only place endorsed by linden labs. Sorry for my miss-reading of SLexchange. Thanks. I will go there  Regards, zunix
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Raudf Fox
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Join date: 25 Feb 2005
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06-07-2007 06:19
Milissa, I recommend that you use the SLExchange for buying and selling L. First off, there you'll get much better customer service. Second off, if you buy L, you won't run the chance of your card getting charged an 'exchange rate fee' if you are a US citizen. And third, you don't have to deal with these stupid policies. Really stupid policy changes that we didn't get told about, so... Posting here is absolutely useless if you want LL to listen. You'd be better off just using the 'approved rival' and go on from there. It's a lot less messy that way 
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Kitty Barnett
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06-07-2007 06:31
From: Rocketman Raymaker YOu can buy $L on the SLexchange website which is not the black market and as far as i know is the only place endorsed by linden labs. LL doesn't endorse any third-party exchange. SLex does seem to have a pretty good reputation however with the community. To the op: don't ever buy any L$ off ebay, or any exchange that several people haven't told you is legitimate. Buying L$ elsewhere does carry some risks, although you should be fine on SLex.
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Rocketman Raymaker
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06-07-2007 06:41
From: Kitty Barnett LL doesn't endorse any third-party exchange. SLex does seem to have a pretty good reputation however with the community.
Are you sure? I was under the impression that Slexchange is the only other place you can buy lindens without the risk of LL taking 150% of their value form you if they were obtained fraudently. Something to do with a risk API or something. And anywhere else you buy them doesnt have protection from this risk as far as i know, so how did they manage to get clearance to trade $l legitamately?
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Kitty Barnett
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06-07-2007 06:58
From: Rocketman Raymaker I was under the impression that Slexchange is the only other place you can buy lindens without the risk of LL taking 150% of their value form you if they were obtained fraudently. I was being slightly pedantic about the word endorsed, sorry  . I don't think the use of RISK necessarily carries an endorsement with it and I don't think we really have any way of verifying which exchange uses it and which don't. SLex does use the RISK so you are protected buying your L$ there. I didn't mean to imply they were just some random rogue site, they are legitimate  .
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Yumi Murakami
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Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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06-07-2007 07:02
In answer to the original question, the whole aim of the trading limits is to protect people from credit card fraud. Unlike most businesses, SL can potentially take an unlimited amount of money in one transaction (you can buy as many L$ as you like), so the trading limits are necessary to stop someone using this to steal $10000 from someone's credit card.
That's why Premium Fees count just the same as anything else - they're a charge on the credit card.
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Snowflake Fairymeadow
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06-07-2007 07:54
From: Yumi Murakami In answer to the original question, the whole aim of the trading limits is to protect people from credit card fraud. Unlike most businesses, SL can potentially take an unlimited amount of money in one transaction (you can buy as many L$ as you like), so the trading limits are necessary to stop someone using this to steal $10000 from someone's credit card.
That's why Premium Fees count just the same as anything else - they're a charge on the credit card. The whole aim of the trading limit is to protect LINDEN LAB from credit card fraud. Credit cards already have consumer protections built in, under US laws. That's why when you dispute an erroneous charge on your credit cards, such as a purchase of a billion $L you didn't authorize or want to spend, the credit card company is so "nice" about fixing it immediately. They aren't being "nice" and "helpful" they are merely doing what every credit card provider in the US has to do to comply with the law.
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Milissa Rossini
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Join date: 6 Jun 2007
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A SL Labyrinth: I hate being treated like a fool
06-07-2007 09:30
I was glad when I know there are SL Exchange.
I can't find anywhere to create any other vista payment to them after log in. It said they will to credit from Linden. (*_*)"?
But my situation is dead locked. Because I can't increase my credit due their policy.
"The following must be corrected before continuing:
* This transaction would exceed your monthly billing limit by US$72. You have already billed US$72.00 of your monthly billing limit is US$25.00."
If I can read this forum, I will reconsider whether to join this membership. This is a black box.
Angry,
Milissa
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Raudf Fox
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Join date: 25 Feb 2005
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06-07-2007 09:39
Try opening a ticket in the JIRA or talk to Zee Linden about the stupidity of this new 'policy'.
I wonder if they'd notice if the front page read 0 for the 24 hour trading? Might create some thought.
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Milissa Rossini
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May I know where to open Ticket?
06-07-2007 09:51
From: Raudf Fox Try opening a ticket in the JIRA or talk to Zee Linden about the stupidity of this new 'policy'.
I wonder if they'd notice if the front page read 0 for the 24 hour trading? Might create some thought. Good idea! What inhuman of this policy! Actually, I am writing blog to disclose this. In my work, I need to deal with open source software, when I find unreasonable, the best is not to talk when it is under dictatorship. It is to PUBLISH. Thanks, may I know where to open ticket? Milissa
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Ann Launay
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06-07-2007 10:03
From: Milissa Rossini
Thanks, may I know where to open ticket?
Log into the Portal at the bottom of the site's Support page. You'll see a link to submit a ticket once you're in. The SLX system is a little convoluted...did you register, get the email, verify at an in-world terminal? You'll need to do all of that before you can go any farther. Once you have, go to My Funds>Deposit USD and enter the amount you want to purchase. It will take you to the PayPal site, but the box at the bottom has a button for those who want to pay using a credit card. Click that, fill in that information and you'll hopefully be charged successfully and redirected back to SLX. Then, go to My Funds>Buy SLL and enter the number of Lindens you wish to purchase, not to exceed your USD deposit, less whatever the fee is...it generally takes me a couple of tries to get the amount right if I'm trying to buy the full USD value. Once that goes through, find a SLX terminal in-world and withdraw your Lindens.
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Princess Ivory
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06-07-2007 10:10
I thought I heard somewhere that SL Exchange did not have as favorable exchange rates, or took % commision, or something?
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
Princess Ivory
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Ann Launay
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06-07-2007 10:17
From: Princess Ivory I thought I heard somewhere that SL Exchange did not have as favorable exchange rates, or took % commision, or something?
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
Princess Ivory Actually, their rates are generally slightly better, even with the small fee they deduct. I'm lazy, though, so I usually just use Lindex unless there's some reason I can't...MUCH easier to click, enter an amount, and click again. 
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Milissa Rossini
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Join date: 6 Jun 2007
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Unfortunately, I still need to wait for another 7 days
06-07-2007 22:15
I am quite impressed for the efficiency and policy of this Virtually Worst. SL Exchange also has 7 days rules for new registrant.
I think I have to borrow some private loan in here.
Milissa
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