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jeanick Noel

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Join date: 3 Apr 2007

Posts: 5

05-23-2007 09:10

hi all !

Looking for information about that but ever found it until I spent a lot of times to day just for that !

I bag your pardon if the subject is alreday treated. So tell me where please !

So! Did somebdy here can give me any response about the following question :

"I would like to know if a group is supposed to dead or not if the owner have decided to get his account down ?"

(As everybody can see in the management of a group only the owner have all rights ! So it's an important news for the others members ! )

Thks all for any response here !

P.S: sorry for my bad english ! Im french

Jessica Elytis

Goddess

Join date: 7 Oct 2005

Posts: 1,783

05-23-2007 09:49

A group stays active until it has less than 2 members. Then, LL will automatically clsoe the group 3 days after that.

So a group needs to be reduced to 1 person or less for 3 days to be closed.

If the owner of teh group leaves it, I believe the officers of the group are moved into the owner role, but I am not sure of that.

~Jessy

_____________________

When your friend does somethign stupid:

From: Aldo Stern

Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.

Lord Berchot

Retired Sideshow Geek

Join date: 29 Dec 2006

Posts: 125

05-23-2007 10:10

Exactly so.

The highest ranked officer in the group will be moved into the owners role. In the cause of 2 officers of similar rank the one who has been there the longest will be elevated.

I have used this feature when transfering ownership of group deeded land that was sold as an operating rental business. Making the new owner the highest ranking officer then quitting the group myself to make them the new owner of the group. We still had to manually have them donate tier to the group, then I manually removed my donated tier but I don't know if there is land involved in your group or not so that may not matter.

Leo Mission

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Join date: 6 Jan 2006

Posts: 189

05-23-2007 10:12

No if the owner leaves, the group doesn't necessarily disband. If a group has more than 1 member (and let's face it, you can't be a group of one!), the group will stay active.

HOWEVER

I'm not sure what happens if the owner leaves without transferring ownership to someone else...whether the owner position is lost forever or whether any officers get promoted to owner.

I suspect the owner position is lost and therefore to be on the safe side I would advise that if the owner has not already left the group, that he/she makes someone else in the group the owner before leaving (can set a trusted person to owner role in group information) - and yes a group can have more than one owner at a time. After leaving the current owner will not be able to make any changes so as you said it is important to get this sorted out.

If all else fails, the only thing to do is for someone in the group to make a new group and invite all the members from the old group.

Edit: I note the post above which was made while I was making this post originally. If it has been done successfully that way then go with that, but perhaps best to try my way first if the owner is still in the group.

jeanick Noel

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Join date: 3 Apr 2007

Posts: 5

Thanks Jessy !

05-23-2007 10:25

So ! I have an answer!

I don't know where do U find it but if you remember tell me Jessy !

About your supposition "the officers are moved or not to the owner rôle ?"

It's really crucial for the group !

So I would like to find some informations more about that !

If anybody knows ? thanks a lot ....

As we said in France : merci beaucoup !

From: Jessica Elytis

A group stays active until it has less than 2 members. Then, LL will automatically clsoe the group 3 days after that.

So a group needs to be reduced to 1 person or less for 3 days to be closed.

If the owner of teh group leaves it, I believe the officers of the group are moved into the owner role, but I am not sure of that.

~Jessy

jeanick Noel

Registered User

Join date: 3 Apr 2007

Posts: 5

thks to Leo !

05-23-2007 10:29

But at this time we have not certitudes ! so! let's run this Tread again ?

thks everybody ! Nice to read u all

From: Leo Mission

No if the owner leaves, the group doesn't necessarily disband. If a group has more than 1 member (and let's face it, you can't be a group of one!), the group will stay active.

HOWEVER

I'm not sure what happens if the owner leaves without transferring ownership to someone else...whether the owner position is lost forever or whether any officers get promoted to owner.

I suspect the owner position is lost and therefore to be on the safe side I would advise that if the owner has not already left the group, that he/she makes someone else in the group the owner before leaving (can set a trusted person to owner role in group information) - and yes a group can have more than one owner at a time. After leaving the current owner will not be able to make any changes so as you said it is important to get this sorted out.

If all else fails, the only thing to do is for someone in the group to make a new group and invite all the members from the old group.

Edit: I note the post above which was made while I was making this post originally. If it has been done successfully that way then go with that, but perhaps best to try my way first if the owner is still in the group.

jeanick Noel

Registered User

Join date: 3 Apr 2007

Posts: 5

This tread is close !

05-23-2007 10:34

Seems Lord Berchot have all the entirely response about my Question !

Thks everybody again !!! You are nice !

See U one day in SL ? who knows ????

From: Lord Berchot

Exactly so.

The highest ranked officer in the group will be moved into the owners role. In the cause of 2 officers of similar rank the one who has been there the longest will be elevated.

I have used this feature when transfering ownership of group deeded land that was sold as an operating rental business. Making the new owner the highest ranking officer then quitting the group myself to make them the new owner of the group. We still had to manually have them donate tier to the group, then I manually removed my donated tier but I don't know if there is land involved in your group or not so that may not matter.

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jeanick Noel Registered User Join date: 3 Apr 2007 Posts: 5	05-23-2007 09:10 hi all ! Looking for information about that but ever found it until I spent a lot of times to day just for that ! I bag your pardon if the subject is alreday treated. So tell me where please ! So! Did somebdy here can give me any response about the following question : "I would like to know if a group is supposed to dead or not if the owner have decided to get his account down ?" (As everybody can see in the management of a group only the owner have all rights ! So it's an important news for the others members ! ) Thks all for any response here ! P.S: sorry for my bad english ! Im french
Jessica Elytis Goddess Join date: 7 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,783	05-23-2007 09:49 A group stays active until it has less than 2 members. Then, LL will automatically clsoe the group 3 days after that. So a group needs to be reduced to 1 person or less for 3 days to be closed. If the owner of teh group leaves it, I believe the officers of the group are moved into the owner role, but I am not sure of that. ~Jessy _____________________ When your friend does somethign stupid: From: Aldo Stern Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.
Lord Berchot Retired Sideshow Geek Join date: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 125	05-23-2007 10:10 Exactly so. The highest ranked officer in the group will be moved into the owners role. In the cause of 2 officers of similar rank the one who has been there the longest will be elevated. I have used this feature when transfering ownership of group deeded land that was sold as an operating rental business. Making the new owner the highest ranking officer then quitting the group myself to make them the new owner of the group. We still had to manually have them donate tier to the group, then I manually removed my donated tier but I don't know if there is land involved in your group or not so that may not matter.
Leo Mission Registered User Join date: 6 Jan 2006 Posts: 189	05-23-2007 10:12 No if the owner leaves, the group doesn't necessarily disband. If a group has more than 1 member (and let's face it, you can't be a group of one!), the group will stay active. HOWEVER I'm not sure what happens if the owner leaves without transferring ownership to someone else...whether the owner position is lost forever or whether any officers get promoted to owner. I suspect the owner position is lost and therefore to be on the safe side I would advise that if the owner has not already left the group, that he/she makes someone else in the group the owner before leaving (can set a trusted person to owner role in group information) - and yes a group can have more than one owner at a time. After leaving the current owner will not be able to make any changes so as you said it is important to get this sorted out. If all else fails, the only thing to do is for someone in the group to make a new group and invite all the members from the old group. Edit: I note the post above which was made while I was making this post originally. If it has been done successfully that way then go with that, but perhaps best to try my way first if the owner is still in the group.
jeanick Noel Registered User Join date: 3 Apr 2007 Posts: 5	Thanks Jessy ! 05-23-2007 10:25 So ! I have an answer! I don't know where do U find it but if you remember tell me Jessy ! About your supposition "the officers are moved or not to the owner rôle ?" It's really crucial for the group ! So I would like to find some informations more about that ! If anybody knows ? thanks a lot .... As we said in France : merci beaucoup ! From: Jessica Elytis A group stays active until it has less than 2 members. Then, LL will automatically clsoe the group 3 days after that. So a group needs to be reduced to 1 person or less for 3 days to be closed. If the owner of teh group leaves it, I believe the officers of the group are moved into the owner role, but I am not sure of that. ~Jessy
jeanick Noel Registered User Join date: 3 Apr 2007 Posts: 5	thks to Leo ! 05-23-2007 10:29 But at this time we have not certitudes ! so! let's run this Tread again ? thks everybody ! Nice to read u all From: Leo Mission No if the owner leaves, the group doesn't necessarily disband. If a group has more than 1 member (and let's face it, you can't be a group of one!), the group will stay active. HOWEVER I'm not sure what happens if the owner leaves without transferring ownership to someone else...whether the owner position is lost forever or whether any officers get promoted to owner. I suspect the owner position is lost and therefore to be on the safe side I would advise that if the owner has not already left the group, that he/she makes someone else in the group the owner before leaving (can set a trusted person to owner role in group information) - and yes a group can have more than one owner at a time. After leaving the current owner will not be able to make any changes so as you said it is important to get this sorted out. If all else fails, the only thing to do is for someone in the group to make a new group and invite all the members from the old group. Edit: I note the post above which was made while I was making this post originally. If it has been done successfully that way then go with that, but perhaps best to try my way first if the owner is still in the group.
jeanick Noel Registered User Join date: 3 Apr 2007 Posts: 5	This tread is close ! 05-23-2007 10:34 Seems Lord Berchot have all the entirely response about my Question ! Thks everybody again !!! You are nice ! See U one day in SL ? who knows ???? From: Lord Berchot Exactly so. The highest ranked officer in the group will be moved into the owners role. In the cause of 2 officers of similar rank the one who has been there the longest will be elevated. I have used this feature when transfering ownership of group deeded land that was sold as an operating rental business. Making the new owner the highest ranking officer then quitting the group myself to make them the new owner of the group. We still had to manually have them donate tier to the group, then I manually removed my donated tier but I don't know if there is land involved in your group or not so that may not matter.

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