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Tini Jewell

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02-21-2009 09:18

Please read and vote! From my understanding this could be a major factor in lag issues all over SL...feel free to let me know if I'm wrong (not that i think you wouldn't! lol)

Uhm, to add a question...is there anyone NOT affected by lag?? ok, ok, yeah, some of you with the hot rods probably aren't...not all of us are that lucky.

Just think this JIRA deserves some exposure.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3867 <- explains why sim performance has been degrading, grid wide. pass it on!

edited to add JIRA...silly me!

Bree Giffen

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02-21-2009 09:36

What's the url to that Jira?

Tini Jewell

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02-21-2009 09:41

thank you Bree for pointing that out, i've edited my original post to add it.

Rhaorth Antonelli

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02-21-2009 09:49

voted

hope they fix that, would explain a lot of slow sim situations

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LittleMe Jewell

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02-21-2009 10:11

I wonder if this has something to do with why the Hangout seems to get more and more laggy as time goes on. It has just been horrid there lately. Many of us definitely rez and delete lots of scripted objects there.

Voted.

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02-21-2009 10:20

I wonder if this has something to do with why the Hangout seems to get more and more laggy as time goes on. It has just been horrid there lately. Many of us definitely rez and delete lots of scripted objects there.

Voted.

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Paola Delpaso

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02-21-2009 10:56

Good. This crossed Soft Linden's radar screen. Let's hope that they are able to identify and eliminate the problem fast.

Milla Alexandre

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02-21-2009 11:37

Wow....that's pretty huge.

I wonder if.......there's any relation to ghost scripts....and the fact that if you delete a script from an object.......the object will still retain the function....even tho the script is gone. Like...a particle script....even if taken out of the object......the object will still function the same when re-rezzed.

I watched a tutorial a while back on scripting, and I know there's a way to eliminate that script retention after deleting......But I wonder.....is that also an issue related to this ghost script bug??? I'll have to take a look at the sim my land is on, and see what I can find there...... what a mess....gees....

Paola Delpaso

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02-21-2009 11:47

From: Milla Alexandre

I wonder if.......there's any relation to ghost scripts....and the fact that if you delete a script from an object.......the object will still retain the function....even tho the script is gone. Like...a particle script....even if taken out of the object......the object will still function the same when re-rezzed.

Generating particles is a prim attribute like colour or shiny. All a particle script does is set the right attributes. Particles will still be generated after the script is removed.

You have to stop the particle engine in the prim explicitly by a call to llParticleSystem([]);

That's as it should be. Expected behaviour.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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02-21-2009 12:48

It appears that Soft Linden wants more detailed reports of specific instances of the problem, including the exact script name and coordinates.

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Tini Jewell

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02-21-2009 12:51

trying to find any info i can from my land that might help! hope everyone else does the same...any tips on specific steps would be appreciated.

Tini Jewell

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02-22-2009 07:28

since this is an issue that could be causing so much lag for everyone, not just landowners...i'm recommending any who can vote, please do so.

i'm not making this recommenation because of this being a 'pet' JIRA issue but one that really does affect most everyone. while i don't feel that visual graphics issues and UI font issues should go unfixed...i do feel this one shouldn't be buried by a barage of pet issues which don't affect functionality.

please let's not bury this thread as a 'pet' JIRA issue...it's really a major problem in SL that needs fixing!

Marianne McCann

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02-22-2009 10:29

I voted on this one yesterday. Clearly a big big issue, and have encouraged others. I'm also being careful with scripts until this is fixed.

As an aside: note that Soft moved pretty quickly on this one, and a lot of action is taking place very quickly. I only point it out for those who complained about the ol' Hippos! one, and how that supposedly showed a LL doesn't care about stuff on the JIRA an all.

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Paola Delpaso

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02-22-2009 12:24

Is there any way to contribute to swatting this as a mainland resident? I believe you need the estate tools to get the important script data and that rules out the ML.

PS: Mari, you're right. Kudos to Soft to getting on the act fast, and on the weekend at that. Aaaaand we're saving the hippos, too!

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02-22-2009 17:59

SL divided by 0 again didnt it?

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Tini Jewell Registered User Join date: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 95	02-21-2009 09:18 Please read and vote! From my understanding this could be a major factor in lag issues all over SL...feel free to let me know if I'm wrong (not that i think you wouldn't! lol) Uhm, to add a question...is there anyone NOT affected by lag?? ok, ok, yeah, some of you with the hot rods probably aren't...not all of us are that lucky. Just think this JIRA deserves some exposure. http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3867 <- explains why sim performance has been degrading, grid wide. pass it on! edited to add JIRA...silly me!
Bree Giffen ♥♣♦♠ Furrtune Hunter ♠♦♣♥ Join date: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 2,715	02-21-2009 09:36 What's the url to that Jira?
Tini Jewell Registered User Join date: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 95	02-21-2009 09:41 thank you Bree for pointing that out, i've edited my original post to add it.
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	02-21-2009 09:49 voted hope they fix that, would explain a lot of slow sim situations _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	02-21-2009 10:11 I wonder if this has something to do with why the Hangout seems to get more and more laggy as time goes on. It has just been horrid there lately. Many of us definitely rez and delete lots of scripted objects there. Voted. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	02-21-2009 10:20 I wonder if this has something to do with why the Hangout seems to get more and more laggy as time goes on. It has just been horrid there lately. Many of us definitely rez and delete lots of scripted objects there. Voted. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Paola Delpaso Hippie Chick Join date: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 273	02-21-2009 10:56 Good. This crossed Soft Linden's radar screen. Let's hope that they are able to identify and eliminate the problem fast.
Milla Alexandre Milla Alexandre Join date: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 1,759	02-21-2009 11:37 Wow....that's pretty huge. I wonder if.......there's any relation to ghost scripts....and the fact that if you delete a script from an object.......the object will still retain the function....even tho the script is gone. Like...a particle script....even if taken out of the object......the object will still function the same when re-rezzed. I watched a tutorial a while back on scripting, and I know there's a way to eliminate that script retention after deleting......But I wonder.....is that also an issue related to this ghost script bug??? I'll have to take a look at the sim my land is on, and see what I can find there...... what a mess....gees....
Paola Delpaso Hippie Chick Join date: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 273	02-21-2009 11:47 From: Milla Alexandre I wonder if.......there's any relation to ghost scripts....and the fact that if you delete a script from an object.......the object will still retain the function....even tho the script is gone. Like...a particle script....even if taken out of the object......the object will still function the same when re-rezzed. Generating particles is a prim attribute like colour or shiny. All a particle script does is set the right attributes. Particles will still be generated after the script is removed. You have to stop the particle engine in the prim explicitly by a call to llParticleSystem([]); That's as it should be. Expected behaviour.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	02-21-2009 12:48 It appears that Soft Linden wants more detailed reports of specific instances of the problem, including the exact script name and coordinates. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Tini Jewell Registered User Join date: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 95	02-21-2009 12:51 trying to find any info i can from my land that might help! hope everyone else does the same...any tips on specific steps would be appreciated.
Tini Jewell Registered User Join date: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 95	02-22-2009 07:28 since this is an issue that could be causing so much lag for everyone, not just landowners...i'm recommending any who can vote, please do so. i'm not making this recommenation because of this being a 'pet' JIRA issue but one that really does affect most everyone. while i don't feel that visual graphics issues and UI font issues should go unfixed...i do feel this one shouldn't be buried by a barage of pet issues which don't affect functionality. please let's not bury this thread as a 'pet' JIRA issue...it's really a major problem in SL that needs fixing!
Marianne McCann Feted Inner Child Join date: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 7,145	02-22-2009 10:29 I voted on this one yesterday. Clearly a big big issue, and have encouraged others. I'm also being careful with scripts until this is fixed. As an aside: note that Soft moved pretty quickly on this one, and a lot of action is taking place very quickly. I only point it out for those who complained about the ol' Hippos! one, and how that supposedly showed a LL doesn't care about stuff on the JIRA an all. _____________________ "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
Paola Delpaso Hippie Chick Join date: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 273	02-22-2009 12:24 Is there any way to contribute to swatting this as a mainland resident? I believe you need the estate tools to get the important script data and that rules out the ML. PS: Mari, you're right. Kudos to Soft to getting on the act fast, and on the weekend at that. Aaaaand we're saving the hippos, too!
bigmoe Whitfield I>3 Foxes Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 459	02-22-2009 17:59 SL divided by 0 again didnt it? _____________________ GoodBye Forums we will miss you ~moe 2-2-2010~