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Arianna Oranos

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11-14-2006 23:54

Many prims I use as floors (boxes and cylinders) now act weird. Although I CLEARLY have them set as NON-phantom and - of course - they're linked to NON-phantom prims, they act as if they were phantom. I just fall through them. What's even stranger is that some of them demonstrate this behavior only in PART of their expanse.

What's going on?

Seola Sassoon

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11-15-2006 00:05

From: Arianna Oranos

Many prims I use as floors (boxes and cylinders) now act weird. Although I CLEARLY have them set as NON-phantom and - of course - they're linked to NON-phantom prims, they act as if they were phantom. I just fall through them. What's even stranger is that some of them demonstrate this behavior only in PART of their expanse.

What's going on?

My guess is horrific lag from the rampant use of copybot avs. But either way, if it's an issue, try rerezzing the floor. That's what the Lindens said to do on prims 'acting' phantom.

Arianna Oranos

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11-15-2006 00:12

I've gotten sick of replacing floor parts. Ugh.

Cory Edo

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11-15-2006 01:19

I've had this problem off and on since 1.5. If you can shift-drag the prim that's gone phantom, the duplicate prim turns phantom while the one left in place is fixed. (Just how I end up fixing it, may or may not work for you)

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Ceera Murakami

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11-15-2006 05:45

This is usually caused by a very slight overlap between two floor prims that are in the same plane with each other. Eliminating the overlap by slightly repositioning or resizing one of the overlapping prims will also fix it. The overlap happens when rounding errors cause a slight shift in prim positions.

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Showdog Tiger

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Floor Issue

11-15-2006 06:31

Dearly Darlings,

This can also happen if your property is by the edge of a sim. A Linden restart will cure the problem sometimes.

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Raudf Fox

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11-15-2006 08:03

I've seen this one happen too many times to count. Usually, if it's limited to one sim, a restart will clean it up. It can be funny though! Just put up a "Falling Floor" sign and laugh at it a bit before fixing it

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Kitty Barnett

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11-15-2006 08:08

I had a prim that would just keep turning phantom no matter what as soon as I linked it back to the set after replacing it. When someone said it could be caused by being close to the maximum link distance I split some of the far end bits off into their own linked set and the floor has been solid ever since so that might be worth looking into as well

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I've had this problem off and on since 1.5. If you can shift-drag the prim that's gone phantom, the duplicate prim turns phantom while the one left in place is fixed.

From my experience the prims you shift-drag away are actually the original ones and the ones that stay behind are actually the copy?

Llauren Mandelbrot

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11-15-2006 08:48

From my experience the prims you shift-drag away are actually the original ones and the ones that stay behind are actually the copy?Yup.

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Cory Edo

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11-15-2006 10:56

From: Llauren Mandelbrot

Yup.

Yar. I've just always called the one you drag away the copy because it makes more sense in my head that it should work that way, even if it doesn't really.

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Macphisto Angelus

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11-15-2006 11:05

Thanks for the info!

I have had the fall through floors syndrome myself. I thought maybe I was just making bugged builds.

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Strife Onizuka

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11-15-2006 11:30

Just to clarify on what a drag copy actually does. The copy is left where the original was, and what is being dragged is the original (this is only important to know if you are scripting).

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Cory Edo

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11-15-2006 11:33

From: Strife Onizuka

Just to clarify on what a drag copy actually does. The copy is left where the original was, and what is being dragged is the original (this is only important to know if you are scripting).

Also if you're group building, and someone with modify rights on your prims needs to take a copy of your prim in a build. The one they drag away is yours, and their version of it is left in the original place. Taught us the hard way to set next owner permissions to full when laying down that first prim, or else you're stuck with two prims that can't be modified in the middle of the build.

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Angelique LaFollette

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11-15-2006 20:19

I've had this before, Just do this;
Copy the Offending Floor Piece, and delete the original, Place the Copy in the Originals Position, it will be quite solid.

Angel.

bilbo99 Emu

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Join date: 27 Oct 2006

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11-16-2006 01:28

From: Angelique LaFollette

I've had this before, Just do this;
Copy the Offending Floor Piece, and delete the original, Place the Copy in the Originals Position, it will be quite solid.

Angel.

.. um the copy is automatically in the position, no? Just clarifying.

Falling through floors
Arianna Oranos Registered User Join date: 9 Sep 2006 Posts: 44	11-14-2006 23:54 Many prims I use as floors (boxes and cylinders) now act weird. Although I CLEARLY have them set as NON-phantom and - of course - they're linked to NON-phantom prims, they act as if they were phantom. I just fall through them. What's even stranger is that some of them demonstrate this behavior only in PART of their expanse. What's going on?
Seola Sassoon NCD owner Join date: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1,036	11-15-2006 00:05 From: Arianna Oranos Many prims I use as floors (boxes and cylinders) now act weird. Although I CLEARLY have them set as NON-phantom and - of course - they're linked to NON-phantom prims, they act as if they were phantom. I just fall through them. What's even stranger is that some of them demonstrate this behavior only in PART of their expanse. What's going on? My guess is horrific lag from the rampant use of copybot avs. But either way, if it's an issue, try rerezzing the floor. That's what the Lindens said to do on prims 'acting' phantom.
Arianna Oranos Registered User Join date: 9 Sep 2006 Posts: 44	11-15-2006 00:12 I've gotten sick of replacing floor parts. Ugh.
Cory Edo is on a 7 second delay Join date: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,851	11-15-2006 01:19 I've had this problem off and on since 1.5. If you can shift-drag the prim that's gone phantom, the duplicate prim turns phantom while the one left in place is fixed. (Just how I end up fixing it, may or may not work for you) _____________________ www.electricsheepcompany.com
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	11-15-2006 05:45 This is usually caused by a very slight overlap between two floor prims that are in the same plane with each other. Eliminating the overlap by slightly repositioning or resizing one of the overlapping prims will also fix it. The overlap happens when rounding errors cause a slight shift in prim positions. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Showdog Tiger Registered User Join date: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 404	Floor Issue 11-15-2006 06:31 Dearly Darlings, This can also happen if your property is by the edge of a sim. A Linden restart will cure the problem sometimes. Ever Yours, Mrs. Showdog Tiger _____________________ Dogdom Doge
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	11-15-2006 08:03 I've seen this one happen too many times to count. Usually, if it's limited to one sim, a restart will clean it up. It can be funny though! Just put up a "Falling Floor" sign and laugh at it a bit before fixing it _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	11-15-2006 08:08 I had a prim that would just keep turning phantom no matter what as soon as I linked it back to the set after replacing it. When someone said it could be caused by being close to the maximum link distance I split some of the far end bits off into their own linked set and the floor has been solid ever since so that might be worth looking into as well . From: someone I've had this problem off and on since 1.5. If you can shift-drag the prim that's gone phantom, the duplicate prim turns phantom while the one left in place is fixed. From my experience the prims you shift-drag away are actually the original ones and the ones that stay behind are actually the copy?
Llauren Mandelbrot Twenty-Four Weeks Old. Join date: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 665	11-15-2006 08:48 From my experience the prims you shift-drag away are actually the original ones and the ones that stay behind are actually the copy?Yup. _____________________ ninjafoo Ng Says: November 4th, 2006 at 7:27 am We all love secondlife so much and were afraid that the magic will end, nothing this good can ever last…. can it?
Cory Edo is on a 7 second delay Join date: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,851	11-15-2006 10:56 From: Llauren Mandelbrot Yup. Yar. I've just always called the one you drag away the copy because it makes more sense in my head that it should work that way, even if it doesn't really. _____________________ www.electricsheepcompany.com
Macphisto Angelus JAFO Join date: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 5,831	11-15-2006 11:05 Thanks for the info! I have had the fall through floors syndrome myself. I thought maybe I was just making bugged builds. _____________________ From: Natalie P from SLU Second Life: Where being the super important, extra special person you've always been sure you are (at least when you're drunk) can be a reality! From: Ann Launay I put on my robe and wizard ha... Oh. Nevermind then.
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	11-15-2006 11:30 Just to clarify on what a drag copy actually does. The copy is left where the original was, and what is being dragged is the original (this is only important to know if you are scripting). _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Cory Edo is on a 7 second delay Join date: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,851	11-15-2006 11:33 From: Strife Onizuka Just to clarify on what a drag copy actually does. The copy is left where the original was, and what is being dragged is the original (this is only important to know if you are scripting). Also if you're group building, and someone with modify rights on your prims needs to take a copy of your prim in a build. The one they drag away is yours, and their version of it is left in the original place. Taught us the hard way to set next owner permissions to full when laying down that first prim, or else you're stuck with two prims that can't be modified in the middle of the build. _____________________ www.electricsheepcompany.com
Angelique LaFollette Registered User Join date: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,595	11-15-2006 20:19 I've had this before, Just do this; Copy the Offending Floor Piece, and delete the original, Place the Copy in the Originals Position, it will be quite solid. Angel.
bilbo99 Emu Garrett's No.1 fan Join date: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,468	11-16-2006 01:28 From: Angelique LaFollette I've had this before, Just do this; Copy the Offending Floor Piece, and delete the original, Place the Copy in the Originals Position, it will be quite solid. Angel. .. um the copy is automatically in the position, no? Just clarifying.

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