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How Many Clothing Layers Are There?

Bloodsong Termagant
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Join date: 22 Jan 2007
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01-25-2007 07:45
and what are they?

i understand underwear, shirt, jacket... but sometimes i put on a shirt, and instead of replacing my current shirt, it goes on underneath. is there an undershirt, a t-shirt, a dress shirt, then the jacket or what?

also, can anybody give a rundown on what the clothing icons mean? i thought that the square humanoid icon sorta looking thing meant 'skin.' (ie: painted on the avatar's skin, rather than on a clothing layer). but sometimes i put those on, and those go over top of other things.


i'm only talking about clothing clothing, not attachment stuff. :) thanks!
Mia Darracq
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Join date: 28 Aug 2006
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01-25-2007 07:56
The skin icon looks like a human with arms & legs spread.
The shap icon is the box with the top half of an av in it.

Clothing Layers

Top Half:
Undershirt - 1st layer closest to skin (looks like a white tank top)
Shirt - 2nd layer (middle) (looks like a light blue button down short sleeved shirt)
Jacket - 3rd layer (top) (looks like a red jacket)

Bottom Half
Underpants - 1st layer closest to skin (looks like a pair of white underpants)
Pants - 2nd layer (middle) (looks like a pair of blue jeans)
Skirt - 3rd layer (top) (looks like a purple skirt)
Socks - closest to skin (I believe the same layer as underpants) (looks like socks)
shoes
Brenda Connolly
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01-25-2007 08:05
Sometimes the item creator doesn't name it exactly as it shows. for example, call an item a shirt as opposed to an undershirt, perhaps cause it is meant to be the only garment wrn. So knowing those icons is very helpful.
Sly Antfarm
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01-25-2007 08:18
i understand now. thanks to whoever made this post
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Ace Albion
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01-25-2007 08:22
My tattoo layers are painted skin, my underwear is tattoos, and then my shirt and pants are underwear, then my jacket is a blouse and i have a skirt on that :D

Something like that anyway!

People use jacket layer for some shirts because it's a bit longer for the flappy bottom bits. I do have one skirt that is on jacket layer :O
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01-25-2007 08:37
Clothing Layers

Top Half:
TATTOO/SKIN
Undershirt - 1st layer closest to skin (looks like a white tank top)
Shirt - 2nd layer (middle) (looks like a light blue button down short sleeved shirt)
GLOVES?
Jacket - 3rd layer (top) (looks like a red jacket)
PRIMS

Bottom Half
TATTOO/SKIN
Underpants - 1st layer closest to skin (looks like a pair of white underpants)
Pants - 2nd layer (middle) (looks like a pair of blue jeans)
Skirt - 3rd layer (top) (looks like a purple skirt)
Socks - closest to skin (I believe the same layer as underpants) (looks like socks)
shoes
PRIMS

I thought I'd add a little bit to the list.
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Bloodsong Termagant
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01-28-2007 07:40
okay, something is missing.

what about the white t-shirt icon? is that between the white underwear and the blue shirt?
Peggy Paperdoll
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01-28-2007 09:33
The white t-shirt icon is the undershirt (upper underwear) layer. I think you might be confused like I was at first............the creater can put clothing items on any clothing layer they choose. There are reasons for that. I'll use a female clothing example since it's easier for me to state. Let's say you want an outfit for winter and the outfit includes a turtleneck, blouse and jacket. The turtleneck would be put on the underwear layer, blouse on the shirt layer and the jacket on the jacket layer. There could be no bra since the underwear layer is taken by the turtleneck. You could wear the turtleneck alone but you could only wear something over it..........not under it (unless it's on the skin/tattoo layer). If the creater put the shirt on the underwear (t-shirt icon) then everything else would have to be on a layer above that (shirt or jacket)...........if the turtleneck was on the same layer then the shirt would be replaced when you wore it.

Did I thoroughly confuse you now? :)
Warda Kawabata
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01-28-2007 14:02
A lot of the items made in the very early days all have the undershirt icon, despite being on different clothing positions. This bug only applies to older legacy bits of clothing. I'm not sure of the exact cutoff date when they started applying the different clothing icons, but it's something to be aware of with older freebie clothing.
Carlisse Midnight
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01-29-2007 20:01
It would be really great if they could make the shirt clothing extendable down below the waistline and put the bottom part of the shirt over the underwear but under the pants.

because there is currently NO way for clothing makers to make shirts that tuck into low cut pants properly. All they could do is make underpants that act as shirt extensions ,...... but most don't, and it'd require not wearing underwear ;)
Bloodsong Termagant
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02-02-2007 07:12
amen to that, carlisse.

i have SO many shirts and pants that just dont meet up, no matter how long i make the hem/waist! why? why am i cursed to have my bellybutton always sticking out?? (happend to me in guild wars too, with my assassin's outfit :X) why are the shirt and pants alpha channels all cut too short? geeze, i hate that.


okay, so i take it that a white t-shirt is a male undershirt and the white spaghetti-strap thingy is a female undershirt? as if that makes a difference?


right ONE last question.... who decides which icon the item is using? because somewhere i got some pants a shirt and a jacket that ALL use the blue short-sleeved blouse icon. how does THAT work? i was kinda hoping i would be able to tell what 'layer' my clothes would appear on via the icon, but... with that? ugh.
bilbo99 Emu
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02-02-2007 07:25
From: Bloodsong Termagant
right ONE last question.... who decides which icon the item is using? because somewhere i got some pants a shirt and a jacket that ALL use the blue short-sleeved blouse icon. how does THAT work? i was kinda hoping i would be able to tell what 'layer' my clothes would appear on via the icon, but... with that? ugh.


amen to that Bloodsong!
I've got over that now but it used to really confuse me to start with why two shirts could have different icons!
It would be nice if we could 'correct' the icons.
Androo Beck
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Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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02-18-2007 23:13
You know the clothes icon that is a shape - the little brown box with a slider and an av head on it? I have some clothes like shirts with that icon. Does that mean that it is a shirt that changes my (torso & arms) shape when I wear it? And when I take it off does my shape revert to what it was before?
bilbo99 Emu
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02-19-2007 00:33
From: Androo Beck
You know the clothes icon that is a shape - the little brown box with a slider and an av head on it? I have some clothes like shirts with that icon. Does that mean that it is a shirt that changes my (torso & arms) shape when I wear it? And when I take it off does my shape revert to what it was before?


Hello Androo, I don't think you can really trust the icons to prove one thing or another. Most of the shape icons are a little avatar but some shirts etc seem to pad out your body weight.
With shapes in particular you must always have one shape or another. Having no shape makes you a ghost and this seems to only happen with newcomers who didn't select an avatar.
To revert to a shape, simply drag what you saved earlier back on. Make copies of your shape and keep them in your outfit folders. This way you can keep entirely different looks which are easily changed.