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Sir Snookums

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Join date: 8 Oct 2006

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10-09-2006 18:15

Well, when i log on, and i put on clothes, noone can see them, and i cant either! ive tried relogging, but nothing seems to work!what should I do? Also, where can i get a cheap pair of jeans? (like, dirt cheap, because i have 0L, and i am getting all ofmy income thru a money chair im sitting in as we speak.

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Seola Sassoon

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10-09-2006 19:11

Try going to an empty sim somewhere, like tp to a land for sale, and rez clothes there.

Chosen Few

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10-09-2006 19:13

From: Sir Snookums

Well, when i log on, and i put on clothes, noone can see them, and i cant either! ive tried relogging, but nothing seems to work!what should I do?

Have you tried clearing your cache?

From: Sir Snookums

Also, where can i get a cheap pair of jeans? (like, dirt cheap, because i have 0L, and i am getting all ofmy income thru a money chair im sitting in as we speak.

Got L$10? Go to the downloads section of this site, and grab the free sample jeans texture. Upload it to SL, apply it to a pair of pants, and you've got jeans. The upload will cost you L$10.

Better yet, got US$1? Go to Lindex and buy yourself some L$. For a dollar, you can get around L$250. That should be plenty to buy yourself some cheap clothing.

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Jeremiah Wind

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Join date: 6 Oct 2006

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10-09-2006 19:21

From: Sir Snookums

Well, when i log on, and i put on clothes, noone can see them, and i cant either! ive tried relogging, but nothing seems to work!what should I do? Also, where can i get a cheap pair of jeans? (like, dirt cheap, because i have 0L, and i am getting all ofmy income thru a money chair im sitting in as we speak.

Well.. I don't know about the first problem but to get stuff just search for Freebie. There are hundreds of places offering free clothes, items, and other things. One that seems to be popular is Freebie Warehouse.

I have to say though that SL mirrors the real world in the variety of clothes. There are 100 stores selling and giving away womens clothes for every store that stocks mens clothes.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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10-09-2006 20:46

The textures that other people see for your clothes are composited on your computer and sent to LL and then to other people's computers. One reason they might not see them, or see them properly, is if your video card is not up to snuff.

On the Client Character Menu, the last option, Rebake Textures, might help - also try changing your active group, that forces a full update which includes a texture "rebake", and, a third way to encourage a rebake is going into appearance and doing a little change like changing your skin pigment one value or something .

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Seola Sassoon

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Join date: 13 Dec 2005

Posts: 1,036

10-09-2006 21:26

Actually, the textures other people see are stored at Linden Labs on separate servers (well should be separate ones).

The only thing rebake does is attempt to reload your av for everyone, including yourself. I rez other people no problems, but they can't see themselves, or their clothing, because I can load up faster than some others who will take longer to load the texture from the server.

Mint Rainbow

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Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 25

10-09-2006 21:52

I know there's a lot of junk out there, but a few of the freebie jeans aren't bad at all. I kind of like the pair that come with the Luskwood free ringtail av for example... nice pair of black jeans with a nice leather belt.

cinda Hoodoo

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Join date: 30 Dec 2004

Posts: 951

hows free sound??

10-09-2006 23:42

Stop by Skye Plaza mall, i have boxes and boxes of free clothes and other usefull stuff, cause i love free best of all. Theres a spiffy pair of faded jeans in them somewhere..happy hunting Sir, glad your back from your sabatical

SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

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10-10-2006 04:30

Here's a quote and a link to Kelly Linden writing about the texture baking process.

http://blog.secondlife.com/2006/09/18/getting-technical-baked-avatar-textures/#more-310

From: someone

First things first - some terminology. What is a Baked Avatar Texture and why do we need them or care? Every avatar’s appearance is made up of many layers of images (skin and clothes), each one with special parameters (all those clothing sliders) that are all layered onto each other to create what we see. Compositing such images in real time is not trivial, in fact it can be a significant resource drain on your local machine. We can do it for a few avatars at a time, but not much more than that. So what we do is we composit or flatten these images down to a single image for each portion of the body - there are upper, lower, head, skirt, hair and eye composits. The last two don’t really get much compositing. We call these flattened images “Baked”. Hence the term Baked Avatar Images.

Each viewer is responsible for baking the images of their own avatar and then uploading them for everyone else to use. Then instead of trying to flatten 20 images based on various additional parameters to create the look of an avatar, there are just 4 or 5 images that perfectly represent all of that information with no baking required. If you think about this you will understand why a bad bake on your machine means everyone else will see the wrong thing, or why a problem in the bake or upload process may mean that you see the right thing (either from a cached copy of the bake, or because you are compositing in real time) while everyone else sees something wrong.

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Darkness Anubis

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Join date: 14 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,628

10-10-2006 04:40

Also Check your Library File. There are some decent things in there these days. They added a whole bunch of AVs and some of the clothing is decent quality.

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Jeremiah Wind

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10-10-2006 13:21

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

On the Client Character Menu, the last option, Rebake Textures, might help - also try changing your active group, that forces a full update which includes a texture "rebake", and, a third way to encourage a rebake is going into appearance and doing a little change like changing your skin pigment one value or something .

Fairly new here myself but where is the client "character" menu... Only menus I have are File, Edit, View, World, Tools and Help. I also don't see an option on the HUD that pops up when you right-click your avatar.

My wife and I keep getting a lot of missing images and we would like to try and fix them as we build our avatars up with things like clothes, skins, hair, emotions and such.

Johan Durant

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Join date: 7 Aug 2006

Posts: 1,657

10-10-2006 13:38

Jeans are easy. There are tons of freebie jeans lying around. I'm wearing a pair of jeans I got for free on my first day in SL, called "madcap" I think.

I had a problem once where the textures on my clothes stopped showing up. At first I assumed this was a temporary problem of that one session, but I kept showing up white in repeated visits to SL. Eventually I read that I could force the textures to reappear by making small tweaks in Edit Appearance. Basically, everywhere that was missing it's texture, I tweaked that body part slightly and the textures showed up.

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Shep Korvin

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Join date: 30 Jun 2005

Posts: 305

10-11-2006 06:57

From: Jeremiah Wind

Fairly new here myself but where is the client "character" menu... Only menus I have are File, Edit, View, World, Tools and Help.

The "client" and "server" menus only appear when you're running your viewer in a special debug mode (most experienced SL users have this turned on all the time, and forget that it doesn't appear by default!). Press CTRL + ALT + D to toggle debug mode on and off.

Seola Sassoon

NCD owner

Join date: 13 Dec 2005

Posts: 1,036

10-11-2006 09:14

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Here's a quote and a link to Kelly Linden writing about the texture baking process.

http://blog.secondlife.com/2006/09/18/getting-technical-baked-avatar-textures/#more-310

I'm assuming you meant that for me, since we were talking about rebaking, but if you read that, then it goes to show that they hold the textures. Besides, you wouldn't upload them if they came from your comp and large store owners would have bandwidth eaten in an hour.

From: someone

We can do it for a few avatars at a time, but not much more than that. So what we do

From: someone

then uploading them

- This would mean to their servers to show.
You are wearing the item, which means, as an owner, you would be the one to pull the image from the servers for others to see. However this is also not always the case.

While Kelly's answer is nice and detailed, it leaves some things out. After you have successfully pulled the image from a hosting server, it can take longer for others to load it, or because of the bugs, they won't load it at all. And also, if you have the image cached already (such as an outfit you wore already), this can cause bugs for others, because you can 'pull' the texture faster, but others that didn't see you yesterday can't.

Clothes Help, Where can i get, and what happened?
Sir Snookums Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2006 Posts: 59	10-09-2006 18:15 Well, when i log on, and i put on clothes, noone can see them, and i cant either! ive tried relogging, but nothing seems to work!what should I do? Also, where can i get a cheap pair of jeans? (like, dirt cheap, because i have 0L, and i am getting all ofmy income thru a money chair im sitting in as we speak. _____________________ From: House Market I had bum sex with an underage rabbit once, while snorting cocaine too.
Seola Sassoon NCD owner Join date: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1,036	10-09-2006 19:11 Try going to an empty sim somewhere, like tp to a land for sale, and rez clothes there.
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	10-09-2006 19:13 From: Sir Snookums Well, when i log on, and i put on clothes, noone can see them, and i cant either! ive tried relogging, but nothing seems to work!what should I do? Have you tried clearing your cache? From: Sir Snookums Also, where can i get a cheap pair of jeans? (like, dirt cheap, because i have 0L, and i am getting all ofmy income thru a money chair im sitting in as we speak. Got L$10? Go to the downloads section of this site, and grab the free sample jeans texture. Upload it to SL, apply it to a pair of pants, and you've got jeans. The upload will cost you L$10. Better yet, got US$1? Go to Lindex and buy yourself some L$. For a dollar, you can get around L$250. That should be plenty to buy yourself some cheap clothing. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Jeremiah Wind Registered User Join date: 6 Oct 2006 Posts: 3	10-09-2006 19:21 From: Sir Snookums Well, when i log on, and i put on clothes, noone can see them, and i cant either! ive tried relogging, but nothing seems to work!what should I do? Also, where can i get a cheap pair of jeans? (like, dirt cheap, because i have 0L, and i am getting all ofmy income thru a money chair im sitting in as we speak. Well.. I don't know about the first problem but to get stuff just search for Freebie. There are hundreds of places offering free clothes, items, and other things. One that seems to be popular is Freebie Warehouse. I have to say though that SL mirrors the real world in the variety of clothes. There are 100 stores selling and giving away womens clothes for every store that stocks mens clothes.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	10-09-2006 20:46 The textures that other people see for your clothes are composited on your computer and sent to LL and then to other people's computers. One reason they might not see them, or see them properly, is if your video card is not up to snuff. On the Client Character Menu, the last option, Rebake Textures, might help - also try changing your active group, that forces a full update which includes a texture "rebake", and, a third way to encourage a rebake is going into appearance and doing a little change like changing your skin pigment one value or something . _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Seola Sassoon NCD owner Join date: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1,036	10-09-2006 21:26 Actually, the textures other people see are stored at Linden Labs on separate servers (well should be separate ones). The only thing rebake does is attempt to reload your av for everyone, including yourself. I rez other people no problems, but they can't see themselves, or their clothing, because I can load up faster than some others who will take longer to load the texture from the server.
Mint Rainbow Registered User Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 25	10-09-2006 21:52 I know there's a lot of junk out there, but a few of the freebie jeans aren't bad at all. I kind of like the pair that come with the Luskwood free ringtail av for example... nice pair of black jeans with a nice leather belt.
cinda Hoodoo my 2cents worth Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 951	hows free sound?? 10-09-2006 23:42 Stop by Skye Plaza mall, i have boxes and boxes of free clothes and other usefull stuff, cause i love free best of all. Theres a spiffy pair of faded jeans in them somewhere..happy hunting Sir, glad your back from your sabatical
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	10-10-2006 04:30 Here's a quote and a link to Kelly Linden writing about the texture baking process. http://blog.secondlife.com/2006/09/18/getting-technical-baked-avatar-textures/#more-310 From: someone First things first - some terminology. What is a Baked Avatar Texture and why do we need them or care? Every avatar’s appearance is made up of many layers of images (skin and clothes), each one with special parameters (all those clothing sliders) that are all layered onto each other to create what we see. Compositing such images in real time is not trivial, in fact it can be a significant resource drain on your local machine. We can do it for a few avatars at a time, but not much more than that. So what we do is we composit or flatten these images down to a single image for each portion of the body - there are upper, lower, head, skirt, hair and eye composits. The last two don’t really get much compositing. We call these flattened images “Baked”. Hence the term Baked Avatar Images. Each viewer is responsible for baking the images of their own avatar and then uploading them for everyone else to use. Then instead of trying to flatten 20 images based on various additional parameters to create the look of an avatar, there are just 4 or 5 images that perfectly represent all of that information with no baking required. If you think about this you will understand why a bad bake on your machine means everyone else will see the wrong thing, or why a problem in the bake or upload process may mean that you see the right thing (either from a cached copy of the bake, or because you are compositing in real time) while everyone else sees something wrong. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Darkness Anubis Registered User Join date: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,628	10-10-2006 04:40 Also Check your Library File. There are some decent things in there these days. They added a whole bunch of AVs and some of the clothing is decent quality. _____________________
Jeremiah Wind Registered User Join date: 6 Oct 2006 Posts: 3	10-10-2006 13:21 From: SuezanneC Baskerville On the Client Character Menu, the last option, Rebake Textures, might help - also try changing your active group, that forces a full update which includes a texture "rebake", and, a third way to encourage a rebake is going into appearance and doing a little change like changing your skin pigment one value or something . Fairly new here myself but where is the client "character" menu... Only menus I have are File, Edit, View, World, Tools and Help. I also don't see an option on the HUD that pops up when you right-click your avatar. My wife and I keep getting a lot of missing images and we would like to try and fix them as we build our avatars up with things like clothes, skins, hair, emotions and such.
Johan Durant Registered User Join date: 7 Aug 2006 Posts: 1,657	10-10-2006 13:38 Jeans are easy. There are tons of freebie jeans lying around. I'm wearing a pair of jeans I got for free on my first day in SL, called "madcap" I think. I had a problem once where the textures on my clothes stopped showing up. At first I assumed this was a temporary problem of that one session, but I kept showing up white in repeated visits to SL. Eventually I read that I could force the textures to reappear by making small tweaks in Edit Appearance. Basically, everywhere that was missing it's texture, I tweaked that body part slightly and the textures showed up. _____________________ (Aelin 184,194,22) The Motion Merchant - an animation store specializing in two-person interactions
Shep Korvin The Lucky Chair Guy Join date: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 305	10-11-2006 06:57 From: Jeremiah Wind Fairly new here myself but where is the client "character" menu... Only menus I have are File, Edit, View, World, Tools and Help. The "client" and "server" menus only appear when you're running your viewer in a special debug mode (most experienced SL users have this turned on all the time, and forget that it doesn't appear by default!). Press CTRL + ALT + D to toggle debug mode on and off.
Seola Sassoon NCD owner Join date: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1,036	10-11-2006 09:14 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Here's a quote and a link to Kelly Linden writing about the texture baking process. http://blog.secondlife.com/2006/09/18/getting-technical-baked-avatar-textures/#more-310 I'm assuming you meant that for me, since we were talking about rebaking, but if you read that, then it goes to show that they hold the textures. Besides, you wouldn't upload them if they came from your comp and large store owners would have bandwidth eaten in an hour. From: someone We can do it for a few avatars at a time, but not much more than that. So what we do From: someone then uploading them - This would mean to their servers to show. You are wearing the item, which means, as an owner, you would be the one to pull the image from the servers for others to see. However this is also not always the case. While Kelly's answer is nice and detailed, it leaves some things out. After you have successfully pulled the image from a hosting server, it can take longer for others to load it, or because of the bugs, they won't load it at all. And also, if you have the image cached already (such as an outfit you wore already), this can cause bugs for others, because you can 'pull' the texture faster, but others that didn't see you yesterday can't.

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