Abandoned Land

I have a neighbor that abandoned their land a few days ago. How long will it sit there before it goes up for sale? I would love to snag it.

It could be months.

If your parcel happens to surround that abandoned land on at least three sides, you might have success filing a Ticket with a request to be able to buy the land.

If it's only one or two sides, you could ask when it will be put up for Auction (have the identifying numbers handy if you phone). But they might not be able to tell you the exact date, as it's quite common for abandoned land to sit for months before it's listed on the Land Auctions page.

I was afraid of that. Still no harm in trying to find out when. I will contact them with the info. Thanks!

LL want the tier paid. The selling price is not really an issue.
If you submit a ticket asking for the parcel to be put into the auction queue, they might fast-track it n the basis that somebody actually wants it.

You've got a parcel.

I visited my Zindra plot today, and discovered that about 50-70% of the entire sim was abandoned.

Date on the abandon seems to be a couple weeks and growing.

Yep. Half of Yedboro sim was abandoned back to Governor Linden. I put a ticket in and got it all auctioned off within 10 days of submitting the ticket. Remember to add the landmark of the abandoned parcels to the ticket for faster service.

so the zindra rush and landflipping has ended?

A lot of people just refuse to admit that a 512 in Zindra is not 20,000L, so they abandon rather than sell for maybe 3000-4000L...

Or in the case of my Sim, it looks like one person had bought most of that abandoned land. They put up a giant build that they only half finished. That's what it was like from when I got there until when I stopped logging into SL regularly.

When I popped in last night, it was all abandoned. But its just 2-3 huge 1/4 sim lots. I assume they didn't want to try subdividing it and selling it.

What category of ticket to use for this?

Auction Issues?

Parcel Settings -> Land Settings?

Or um....?

Not auctions, I wouldn't think. I put a ticket in a few days ago, asking to buy a 256 that was owned by someone who appears to have left SL a long time ago. It wasn't even set as abandoned. It was just set for sale to me and I now have it. If it had been abandoned, and it was more than 512m, I would have still filed the ticket under the same categories:- Land and Region Issues > Land/Parcel Issues > Buying Land, and I'd have asked if it can go into the auction queue because I'd like to buy it.

Thank you.

The Ticket system frustrates me everytime. The categories tend to make no sense to my mind, so I end up using ARs for everything instead...

Will try the categories you mentioned.

I'm frankly baffled by the Zindra land market. It appears that the ultra-high-end stuff still sells for a substantial premium: somewhere between Nautilus City and Bay City prices. But the standard-issue, non-urban, single-primmed landlocked stuff is just randomly priced, as far as I can figure out, and doesn't seem to be selling very quickly at any price.

One dealer (can't name here, but he owns a lot of prime Zindra locations) seems to be very gradually putting parcels for sale, holding vast amounts off the market, and still adding some at auction. That's gotta cost a fortune in tier, so while I'm sure it's the responsible way to keep prices from tanking and his prices tend to be at the high end of actual sales, I still find it hard to believe it's profitable to hold all that expensive inventory.

Seen much the same in Bay City and the Shermerville suburbs -- and I suppose the RL too. Folks paid boom time prices, and rather than sell at a loss (and make a few Lindens in the process), they end up abandoning the whole thing and losing it all. A truly odd process.

You get a lot of people who don't want to cut and sell in usable portions also.

Just finished asking a neighbor with land for sale that's alongside a road. The Lindens put the road down in such a way that his land is only 12 wide. He's got half the length of the sim, almost 128m x 12m. He's had it for sale for months. I offered to buy off a strip of it.
- its poorly sized and not good for anything but some small 480 plots.

But he wants to sell it all or nothing.

Which is something I find common. I did manage to get one person to cut their 1024 in half for me once, I bought half and a week later they abandoned the other half... (they didn't want to drop price below 5000L).

And of course the current huge abandoned lots would have sold quickly if cut into 512s @ 3500L or so a piece.

It's denial.
If they set at a low price, they would be consciously part of process of someone buying it for what it was actually worth - being waaaaaaay less than they paid for it.
By abandoning it, they can just walk away and never have to see the market price in their face.

or...
They hesitate and delay action... and all of a sudden, tier date is tomorrow.

Whew...

Just submitted 10 tickets to ave 10 lots in Voidicus put into the auction queue.

After flying around I think my original guess was wrong. Its not 1/3 thats abandoned, more like 3/4ths.

One person bought up most of the sim apparently. And then just abandoned it all on the 6th of January.

I'm not even sure if I got all the plots...

About once a month I'll do a pass through Bay City and look around, thinking I might buy land out there... but all I see is lots of the stable landowners, abandoned plots, and places going for 500L per square meter... O.o

And I'm pretty certain those abandoned people are just like the ones in Zindra... they couldn't take dealing with the end of a boom, so they just ran out of Gold Rush town leaving all their stuff behind.

Being a land flipper takes smarts, just like being an estate manager. A lot of people jump into both in SL without looking...

Oh you don't have to do it in seperate tickets. I sent one ticket and posted each slurl and plot size on it. I think if it is ten seperate tickets you may get a bunch of random Lindens grabbing all of the tickets. I forsee chaos in that scenario.

What would everyone say is a fair, current price for

half a sim flat mature land - nothing hideous nearby - mostly sparsely built sims around

beach/ocean land near the Linden sea but not right on it, 10k or 12k parcel

roadside 512

cliff land overlooking Linden sea and bordering a road, 1024 or larger parcels

random 512

random 1024

Just out of idle curiosity.

aestetics I guess.

I -HATE- flat land. But all the land flippers seem to love it. First thing I always do when I buy a plot is rough up the land and if it was on a hill, return the shape to the original hillside curve.

Mainland land values seem to work like this:

Most expensive
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Bay City double prim
Bay City regular prim
Zindra double prim
Protected water adult
Protected road adult
Protected water mature
Unprotected adult
protected water PG
protected road mature
protected road PG
unprotected mature
unprotected PG
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Least expensive

Flat / hill / cliff doesn't seem to play a major factor.

OK thanks...

Some people like flat land for various things like for animals (they don't tip over on 'roam), for small lots so they can have a house on ground level, for building a 'neighborhood' so they can lay roads down easier, etc.

For landscaping I agree sometimes it's more fun to have some terrain but, to be honest for my own park I wish I had more flat land since there are things I just can't rez on bumpy/tilted land there. But it needs to be PG, and my flat half-sim is mature land.

On rough land, I build structures under the buildings - from a 'slab' of stones under the mini-shop on my Zindra plot to the wooden poles holding up one of my Gazebos on my mature plot.

The best ground level builds I've seen in SL have all been built into the sides of cliffs or hills - but that's my tastes going again.

I've done that too...the cabin I'm working on is on a lot that is like two 'steps' and I've been trying to figure out how to build on it. So far it's got two thick slabs and the rest...not sure yet. Lol