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Lauralynne Cuddihy

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Join date: 28 Nov 2006

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07-28-2007 17:19

I spoke with a casino owner earlier today who happens to own a VERY LARGE and known casino that is STILL running inworld. I asked said owner how they are able to remain open when most of the others have shut down. Said owner stated to me that they have a license to legally run a casino inworld.

I personally think this is a bunch of you know what... what do you all think?

Wilhelm Neumann

Runs with Crayons

Join date: 20 Apr 2006

Posts: 2,204

07-28-2007 17:24

tell him to show you a copy of the license

at this point anyone who does have a casino license would have to display it anyhow assuming they can get one for a virtual world that most people never heard of but i suppose when applying for a casino license there may be some places that don't ask where the casino will be "exactly" dunno

Yumi Murakami

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Join date: 27 Sep 2005

Posts: 6,860

07-28-2007 17:25

Note that the words ".. without a license" do not appear in the TOS amendment.

It might be possible to get an RL casino license, but that wouldn't affect the TOS. The Lindens are not bound to allow all legal behaviours to be enacted in Second Life.

Probably he was just lying though

Uvas Umarov

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Join date: 8 Feb 2007

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07-28-2007 18:03

I think it may take a few days to a few weeks to root them all out...the Gold Rushes were gone immediately.

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Ciaran Laval

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Join date: 11 Mar 2007

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07-28-2007 18:06

Well what's the worst that can happen to him? He loses all his inworld assets? By announcing the ban overnight LL have already put a knife through the business model so if he gets a couple of days money, fair play to him.

Chris Norse

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07-28-2007 18:10

His real world license doesn't get his SL machines inspected.

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Jessica Elytis

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07-28-2007 18:39

*sighs*

The reason LL banned gambling was due to the MULTIPLE lasw involving gambling across the globe. Even within the USA (the residing country of LL headquarters), the laws vary from state-to-state and even city-to-city.

LL can not possibly comply with every law agasint gambling throught the known world, so chose instead to ban it.

IF this casino operator has a RL license, he can use it to wipe his arse, because that's about it's worth here in SL.

Anyone running a casino with the gambling games officially listed is courting having all their SL assests siezed by LL, and they will have no recourse if LL would do such. Quite frankly, anyone doing so is one of the less intelligent persons on the grid.

~Jessy

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Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.

RobbyRacoon Olmstead

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07-28-2007 18:45

From: Lauralynne Cuddihy

what do you all think?

I think that the casino owner wishes for *residents* to believe he has a license, so that the *residents* don't file an Abuse report, that's what I think.

I also think that some people are mistakenly thinking that he has an RL license (which wouldn't apply anyways), when the original post said "inworld" specifically.

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Cocoanut Koala

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07-28-2007 18:50

And I think you are right.

coco

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Xplorer Cannoli

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07-28-2007 18:52

I had someone open up a casino in the sky on my new island today. Not sure, but I think SL just opened up a black market.

Island owners beware - this affects you if a casino operator opens up on your land.

And yes, I specifically have it listed in my covenant - residential only. I sent the machines back.

Aleister Montgomery

Minding the gap

Join date: 30 Apr 2006

Posts: 846

07-28-2007 19:37

From: Lauralynne Cuddihy

I spoke with a casino owner earlier today who happens to own a VERY LARGE and known casino that is STILL running inworld. I asked said owner how they are able to remain open when most of the others have shut down. Said owner stated to me that they have a license to legally run a casino inworld.

I personally think this is a bunch of you know what... what do you all think?

Ehm... why exactly do you care if someone runs a casino somewhere? Is it in your neighbourhood and your home is lagged by the casino?

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Colette Meiji

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Join date: 25 Mar 2005

Posts: 15,556

07-28-2007 19:50

I see some bannings on the horizon.

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RobbyRacoon - excellent interpretation, it makes the absolute most sense to me.

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Ohh and LOL if he had a RL license, why would he need SL peanut change money?

Qie Niangao

Coin-operated

Join date: 24 May 2006

Posts: 7,138

07-28-2007 19:56

From: Ciaran Laval

Well what's the worst that can happen to him? He loses all his inworld assets? By announcing the ban overnight LL have already put a knife through the business model so if he gets a couple of days money, fair play to him.

Well, now that you mention it... if he really does have an RL license, public claims that it authorizes gambling online could very well get that license suspended. (And, if he had such a license, he wouldn't risk that, so probably it's all smoke to begin with.)

[edit: wait, he said he had a license to run gambling *in-world*? now that's just dopey.]

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Lauralynne Cuddihy Registered User Join date: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 163	07-28-2007 17:19 I spoke with a casino owner earlier today who happens to own a VERY LARGE and known casino that is STILL running inworld. I asked said owner how they are able to remain open when most of the others have shut down. Said owner stated to me that they have a license to legally run a casino inworld. I personally think this is a bunch of you know what... what do you all think?
Wilhelm Neumann Runs with Crayons Join date: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 2,204	07-28-2007 17:24 tell him to show you a copy of the license at this point anyone who does have a casino license would have to display it anyhow assuming they can get one for a virtual world that most people never heard of but i suppose when applying for a casino license there may be some places that don't ask where the casino will be "exactly" dunno
Yumi Murakami DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat! Join date: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,860	07-28-2007 17:25 Note that the words ".. without a license" do not appear in the TOS amendment. It might be possible to get an RL casino license, but that wouldn't affect the TOS. The Lindens are not bound to allow all legal behaviours to be enacted in Second Life. Probably he was just lying though
Uvas Umarov Phone Weasel Advocate Join date: 8 Feb 2007 Posts: 622	07-28-2007 18:03 I think it may take a few days to a few weeks to root them all out...the Gold Rushes were gone immediately. _____________________ "On the other hand, if you are convinced that I spent all the money on a new sports car, then getting even 2.5% instead of 0% back would be quite a deal, wouldn't it?" ---ginko bank owner on his financial dealings
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	07-28-2007 18:06 Well what's the worst that can happen to him? He loses all his inworld assets? By announcing the ban overnight LL have already put a knife through the business model so if he gets a couple of days money, fair play to him.
Chris Norse Loud Arrogant Redneck Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,735	07-28-2007 18:10 His real world license doesn't get his SL machines inspected. _____________________ I'm going to pick a fight William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL
Jessica Elytis Goddess Join date: 7 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,783	07-28-2007 18:39 sighs The reason LL banned gambling was due to the MULTIPLE lasw involving gambling across the globe. Even within the USA (the residing country of LL headquarters), the laws vary from state-to-state and even city-to-city. LL can not possibly comply with every law agasint gambling throught the known world, so chose instead to ban it. IF this casino operator has a RL license, he can use it to wipe his arse, because that's about it's worth here in SL. Anyone running a casino with the gambling games officially listed is courting having all their SL assests siezed by LL, and they will have no recourse if LL would do such. Quite frankly, anyone doing so is one of the less intelligent persons on the grid. ~Jessy _____________________ When your friend does somethign stupid: From: Aldo Stern Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.
RobbyRacoon Olmstead Red warrior is hungry! Join date: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,821	07-28-2007 18:45 From: Lauralynne Cuddihy what do you all think? I think that the casino owner wishes for residents to believe he has a license, so that the residents don't file an Abuse report, that's what I think. I also think that some people are mistakenly thinking that he has an RL license (which wouldn't apply anyways), when the original post said "inworld" specifically. . _____________________
Cocoanut Koala Coco's Cottages Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 7,903	07-28-2007 18:50 And I think you are right. coco _____________________ VALENTINE BOUTIQUE at Coco's Cottages http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rosieri/85/166/87
Xplorer Cannoli Cache Cleaner Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,131	07-28-2007 18:52 I had someone open up a casino in the sky on my new island today. Not sure, but I think SL just opened up a black market. Island owners beware - this affects you if a casino operator opens up on your land. And yes, I specifically have it listed in my covenant - residential only. I sent the machines back.
Aleister Montgomery Minding the gap Join date: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 846	07-28-2007 19:37 From: Lauralynne Cuddihy I spoke with a casino owner earlier today who happens to own a VERY LARGE and known casino that is STILL running inworld. I asked said owner how they are able to remain open when most of the others have shut down. Said owner stated to me that they have a license to legally run a casino inworld. I personally think this is a bunch of you know what... what do you all think? Ehm... why exactly do you care if someone runs a casino somewhere? Is it in your neighbourhood and your home is lagged by the casino? _____________________ Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	07-28-2007 19:50 I see some bannings on the horizon. ------------------------------------------------ RobbyRacoon - excellent interpretation, it makes the absolute most sense to me. ------------------------ Ohh and LOL if he had a RL license, why would he need SL peanut change money?
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	07-28-2007 19:56 From: Ciaran Laval Well what's the worst that can happen to him? He loses all his inworld assets? By announcing the ban overnight LL have already put a knife through the business model so if he gets a couple of days money, fair play to him. Well, now that you mention it... if he really does have an RL license, public claims that it authorizes gambling online could very well get that license suspended. (And, if he had such a license, he wouldn't risk that, so probably it's all smoke to begin with.) [edit: wait, he said he had a license to run gambling in-world? now that's just dopey.]

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