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What Second Life can teach your datacenter about scaling Web apps

Joshooah Lovenkraft
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02-02-2010 09:19
I came across this geeky article about SL and their data centre infrastructure by former LL employee Ian Wilkes (Ian Linden?). It's way above my paygrade but may be of interest to some. Any interesting tidbits any g33ks can glean from this that is of relevance to a regular person?

As an end user, all this behind the scenes stuff is great but at the end of the day I just want it to work. The title of the article does make me lulz a bit: http://arstechnica.com/business/data-centers/2010/02/what-second-life-can-teach-all-companies-about-scaling-web-apps.ars/

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Kitty Barnett
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02-02-2010 09:40
Reading the article and looking at some of the blog posts he wrote as a Linden (https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/authors/Ian.Linden) it seems LL lost someone who actually knew what they were doing (and explained what happened in a blog post when things went wrong).
Joshooah Lovenkraft
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02-02-2010 09:56
From: Kitty Barnett
Reading the article and looking at some of the blog posts he wrote as a Linden (https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/authors/Ian.Linden) it seems LL lost someone who actually knew what they were doing (and explained what happened in a blog post when things went wrong).


I didn't understand most of it frankly, but it seemed like an honest post-mortem on how things worked behind the scenes and the decision making at LL. I'm curious to know what folks think about LL's practices based on the article and whether it bodes well for the future scaling of SL.

And just as an aside Kitty, thanks so much for your contributions to the Scripting Tips forums ... I didn't post there a lot but read it a great deal and learned quite a bit so a big thanks to you and all the others that were so generous with your time and knowledge :)
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Kitty Barnett
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02-02-2010 09:58
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft
And just as an aside Kitty, thanks so much for your contributions to the Scripting Tips forums ... I didn't post there a lot but read it a great deal and learned quite a bit so a big thanks to you and all the others that were so generous with your time and knowledge :)
I only infrequently glanced at/posted on the Scripting Tips, but thankies all the same :p.

(Maybe a different Kitty? Or otherwise maybe Jesse Barnett?)
Joshooah Lovenkraft
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02-02-2010 09:59
From: Kitty Barnett
I only infrequently glanced at/posted on the Scripting Tips, but thankies all the same :p.

(Maybe a different Kitty? Or otherwise maybe Jesse Barnett?)


Haha woops. I did mean Jesse Barnett so thanks Jesse if you're reading this!
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Ann Otoole
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02-02-2010 10:27
All crap the large firms I worked with dealt with long ago by firing the "hacker types" that scoffed at engineering discipline.
Twisted Pharaoh
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02-02-2010 11:05
The part about MySQL vs Oracle was a good read. I've readen elsewhere that they got rid of MySQL 4 only recently.
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Ann Otoole
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02-02-2010 11:51
From: Twisted Pharaoh
The part about MySQL vs Oracle was a good read. I've readen elsewhere that they got rid of MySQL 4 only recently.

All Codd theory RDBMS design databases are doomed in the future. There is just too much data involved.

The nosql theory looks interesting.
Brenda Connolly
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02-02-2010 12:17
From: Kitty Barnett
Reading the article and looking at some of the blog posts he wrote as a Linden (https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/authors/Ian.Linden) it seems LL lost someone who actually knew what they were doing (and explained what happened in a blog post when things went wrong).


That's probably is why he isn't a Linden anymore. He didn't scale.
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Kitty Barnett
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02-02-2010 12:32
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That's probably is why he isn't a Linden anymore. He didn't scale.
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02-02-2010 13:11
Its all LIES!!!

We already know LL's Database is kept in an Excel Spreadsheet!! :p
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02-04-2010 08:39
I *really* liked that article. In some places it was a bit frightening, if you imagine yourself in an analogous situation.