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Wavie Haller

Registered User

Join date: 18 Dec 2006

Posts: 82

12-19-2006 21:06

Wondering if anyone can help me, On website it says that your first 512sq.m of land, The land use fees are free. Is this true and if yes, how does it work. Does it only apply if you buy the first land($1 per metre) or does it apply to any 512sq.m of land you purchase? from anyone. thanks

Strife Onizuka

Moonchild

Join date: 3 Mar 2004

Posts: 5,887

12-19-2006 21:09

If you have a premium account, you are entitled to own 512 sqr meters of land. If you want to own more you need to tier up. If you don't own any land and you are on a premium account, it's a bit of a waste.

If you have never owned (First) land you are entitled to First Land, as offered through the First Land Program.

_____________________

Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river.
- Cyril Connolly

Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence.
- James Nachtwey

Gordon Wendt

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Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 1,024

12-19-2006 21:29

Correct me if I'm wrong Strife but didn't they change that so that people who had previously held land could still get first land as long as they currently didn't have any land or maybe there were more conditions that had to be met as well because I awhile ago gave up my premium account after buying first land and when I went back to premium I was able to buy first land again... I have since given up premium again and with the lack of available first land and the ricing prices coupled with my lack of need to premium doubt I will ever have opportunity to test this again.

Gordon Wendt

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Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 1,024

12-19-2006 21:32

From: Wavie Haller

Wondering if anyone can help me, On website it says that your first 512sq.m of land, The land use fees are free. Is this true and if yes, how does it work. Does it only apply if you buy the first land($1 per metre) or does it apply to any 512sq.m of land you purchase? from anyone. thanks

Remember though that even though the land is free to buy first land you have to have a US$9.95 a month premium account with Linden Labs. The alternative is to go with private sim land which means you don't have to pay LL a cent but also means no first land and having to pay monthly fees set by the sim owner which may or may not be in excess of the linden charge though for my own reasons I won't give a value judgement on whether Mainland (owned by Linden Labs) or Island Sim (owned by a private owner) is a better buy.

Kitty Barnett

Registered User

Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 5,586

12-19-2006 21:46

From: Gordon Wendt

Correct me if I'm wrong Strife but didn't they change that so that people who had previously held land could still get first land as long as they currently didn't have any land or maybe there were more conditions that had to be met as well because I awhile ago gave up my premium account after buying first land and when I went back to premium I was able to buy first land again... I have since given up premium again and with the lack of available first land and the ricing prices coupled with my lack of need to premium doubt I will ever have opportunity to test this again.

If you ever owned land (or deeded any of your "free" 512m² tier to a group) before you took advantage of first land, you forfeit having a chance at first land.

Dropping premium and starting over is probably just a loophole they forgot to fix

.

Gordon Wendt

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Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 1,024

12-19-2006 21:48

From: Kitty Barnett

Dropping premium and starting over is probably just a loophole they forgot to fix

.

I'll have to ask one of the dev guys about that if I get a chance to talk to them in the near future because it seems like that could be a costly loophole to both LL and to other residents if abused.

Seola Sassoon

NCD owner

Join date: 13 Dec 2005

Posts: 1,036

12-19-2006 22:52

From: Kitty Barnett

If you ever owned land (or deeded any of your "free" 512m² tier to a group) before you took advantage of first land, you forfeit having a chance at first land.

Dropping premium and starting over is probably just a loophole they forgot to fix

.

Nope, cause I tried this, didn't work for me at least.

_____________________

A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer. - Mitch Hedburg

I saw a commercial for an above-ground pool. It was thirty seconds long. You know why? Because that's the maximum amount of time you can depict yourself having fun in an above-ground pool - M.H.

You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later. - M.H.

PamJade Posthorn

Registered User

Join date: 18 Nov 2006

Posts: 23

12-20-2006 04:28

If you have an alt. is the alt allowed to buy First Land or does that only apply to the main account?

Banking Laws

Realty Serious

Join date: 14 Jun 2006

Posts: 602

12-20-2006 04:34

I made an alt premium and bought a second first land (same account, card, etc.). The loophole wasn't fixed.

_____________________

"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid in posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

- Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President

Alazarin Mondrian

Teh Trippy Hippie Dragon

Join date: 4 Apr 2005

Posts: 1,549

12-20-2006 05:02

No the loophole has never been fixed

Back in February I stumbled across a variant of the first-land loophole described by Gordon Wendt and duly reported it to Linden Labs. Not only has it never been patched but has quite obviously been since 'discovered' by our recent breed of 'First Land' swoopers who are exploiting it with devastating effect. Not only are they gobbling up all the First Land as it comes on the market, but I believe that they are also partially responsible for the insane land price inflation experienced recently.

Until the loophole is closed no amount of First Land rolled out by LL will address the issue. All it will do is create mini-land barons out of the First Land swoopers as well as alot of bitter new residents pissed off at having to pay extortionate prices for their first foothold in Second Life.

<passes out pitchforks and torches to the crowd> Something must be done!!!

_____________________

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Kitty Barnett

Registered User

Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 5,586

12-20-2006 07:38

From: PamJade Posthorn

If you have an alt. is the alt allowed to buy First Land or does that only apply to the main account?

Alts are separate (not sure if you get a referral bonus for them though, not about to try that

). If you premium up an alt it will get the L$1000 sign-up bonus and gets a chance at first land just like your main.

Gordon was talking about being premium, then at some point reverting back to basic, then a few months later become premium again.

Land Use Fees? First Land
Wavie Haller Registered User Join date: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 82	12-19-2006 21:06 Wondering if anyone can help me, On website it says that your first 512sq.m of land, The land use fees are free. Is this true and if yes, how does it work. Does it only apply if you buy the first land($1 per metre) or does it apply to any 512sq.m of land you purchase? from anyone. thanks
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	12-19-2006 21:09 If you have a premium account, you are entitled to own 512 sqr meters of land. If you want to own more you need to tier up. If you don't own any land and you are on a premium account, it's a bit of a waste. If you have never owned (First) land you are entitled to First Land, as offered through the First Land Program. _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Gordon Wendt 404 - User not found Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1,024	12-19-2006 21:29 Correct me if I'm wrong Strife but didn't they change that so that people who had previously held land could still get first land as long as they currently didn't have any land or maybe there were more conditions that had to be met as well because I awhile ago gave up my premium account after buying first land and when I went back to premium I was able to buy first land again... I have since given up premium again and with the lack of available first land and the ricing prices coupled with my lack of need to premium doubt I will ever have opportunity to test this again.
Gordon Wendt 404 - User not found Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1,024	12-19-2006 21:32 From: Wavie Haller Wondering if anyone can help me, On website it says that your first 512sq.m of land, The land use fees are free. Is this true and if yes, how does it work. Does it only apply if you buy the first land($1 per metre) or does it apply to any 512sq.m of land you purchase? from anyone. thanks Remember though that even though the land is free to buy first land you have to have a US$9.95 a month premium account with Linden Labs. The alternative is to go with private sim land which means you don't have to pay LL a cent but also means no first land and having to pay monthly fees set by the sim owner which may or may not be in excess of the linden charge though for my own reasons I won't give a value judgement on whether Mainland (owned by Linden Labs) or Island Sim (owned by a private owner) is a better buy.
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	12-19-2006 21:46 From: Gordon Wendt Correct me if I'm wrong Strife but didn't they change that so that people who had previously held land could still get first land as long as they currently didn't have any land or maybe there were more conditions that had to be met as well because I awhile ago gave up my premium account after buying first land and when I went back to premium I was able to buy first land again... I have since given up premium again and with the lack of available first land and the ricing prices coupled with my lack of need to premium doubt I will ever have opportunity to test this again. If you ever owned land (or deeded any of your "free" 512m² tier to a group) before you took advantage of first land, you forfeit having a chance at first land. Dropping premium and starting over is probably just a loophole they forgot to fix .
Gordon Wendt 404 - User not found Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1,024	12-19-2006 21:48 From: Kitty Barnett Dropping premium and starting over is probably just a loophole they forgot to fix . I'll have to ask one of the dev guys about that if I get a chance to talk to them in the near future because it seems like that could be a costly loophole to both LL and to other residents if abused.
Seola Sassoon NCD owner Join date: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1,036	12-19-2006 22:52 From: Kitty Barnett If you ever owned land (or deeded any of your "free" 512m² tier to a group) before you took advantage of first land, you forfeit having a chance at first land. Dropping premium and starting over is probably just a loophole they forgot to fix . Nope, cause I tried this, didn't work for me at least. _____________________ A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer. - Mitch Hedburg I saw a commercial for an above-ground pool. It was thirty seconds long. You know why? Because that's the maximum amount of time you can depict yourself having fun in an above-ground pool - M.H. You know, I'm sick of following my dreams, man. I'm just going to ask where they're going and hook up with 'em later. - M.H.
PamJade Posthorn Registered User Join date: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 23	12-20-2006 04:28 If you have an alt. is the alt allowed to buy First Land or does that only apply to the main account?
Banking Laws Realty Serious Join date: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 602	12-20-2006 04:34 I made an alt premium and bought a second first land (same account, card, etc.). The loophole wasn't fixed. _____________________ "I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid in posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President
Alazarin Mondrian Teh Trippy Hippie Dragon Join date: 4 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,549	12-20-2006 05:02 No the loophole has never been fixed Back in February I stumbled across a variant of the first-land loophole described by Gordon Wendt and duly reported it to Linden Labs. Not only has it never been patched but has quite obviously been since 'discovered' by our recent breed of 'First Land' swoopers who are exploiting it with devastating effect. Not only are they gobbling up all the First Land as it comes on the market, but I believe that they are also partially responsible for the insane land price inflation experienced recently. Until the loophole is closed no amount of First Land rolled out by LL will address the issue. All it will do is create mini-land barons out of the First Land swoopers as well as alot of bitter new residents pissed off at having to pay extortionate prices for their first foothold in Second Life. <passes out pitchforks and torches to the crowd> Something must be done!!! _____________________ My stuff on Meta-Life: http://tinyurl.com/ykq7nzt http://www.myspace.com/alazarinmobius http://slurl.com/secondlife/Crescent/72/98/116
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	12-20-2006 07:38 From: PamJade Posthorn If you have an alt. is the alt allowed to buy First Land or does that only apply to the main account? Alts are separate (not sure if you get a referral bonus for them though, not about to try that ). If you premium up an alt it will get the L$1000 sign-up bonus and gets a chance at first land just like your main. Gordon was talking about being premium, then at some point reverting back to basic, then a few months later become premium again.

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