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Necco Xeno
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01-25-2007 18:41
Can someone tell me by having a Nazi flag I get banned? Give me break. I'm not harming anyone but hey when I get caged a hundred times and shot nothing happens to them. I even take screen shots. Whats the deal?
Usagi Musashi
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01-25-2007 18:47
From: Necco Xeno
Can someone tell me by having a Nazi flag I get banned? Give me break. I'm not harming anyone but hey when I get caged a hundred times and shot nothing happens to them. I even take screen shots. Whats the deal?


Welcome to the new sl where Abuse reports a joke, and who ever reads your Abuse report is the one who makde the final answer. If they like you they do somethign about it. But if they have a personal issue with you no way in hell it wil be looked at. I had this problem happen when i was hit in the sand box, and the less then ( fill in the blank person ) remark left me later bannded for his lack of doing his job..........Have to love this types.
Angelique LaFollette
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01-25-2007 19:29
Read TOS on Generating or Uploading Offensive Imagery.

You just discovered One Definition of Offensive.

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Usagi Musashi
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yes but......
01-25-2007 19:33
All well and said. But there the case where LLabs is failing to deaal with caging, and other abusive issues......If they at Llabs were no so flip flop on abuse issue then issues like this one this person has ( and yes he is breaking TOS )But he brings up a so serous flaws in the abuse reporting areas.
Sylvia Trilling
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01-25-2007 19:59
WTF indeed. Have a nazi flag if you must But don't whine if people react negatively.
Susie Boffin
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01-25-2007 20:04
From: Necco Xeno
Can someone tell me by having a Nazi flag I get banned? Give me break. I'm not harming anyone but hey when I get caged a hundred times and shot nothing happens to them. I even take screen shots. Whats the deal?


All I can say is that I am totally amazed by some people's lack of brainpower. :eek:
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Mickey McLuhan
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01-25-2007 20:07
Taking a look at the police blotter, it seems that they ARE trying to deal with the griefing.
Add to that the No Push thing, the ability for landowners to turn off scripting, object creation and entry etc., etc., I think we can safely say that they're trying to deal with it.

As for the Nazi flag...

um... dude. You can't see how that may be offensive and that, according to the ToS, which I assume you read ("The use of derogatory or demeaning language or images in reference to another Resident's race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation is never allowed in Second Life.";), is a bannable offence?

Unbelieveable that you'd actualy complain about being banned for breaking the rules.

It's a Nazi frickin' flag, man.
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Victoria Kelly
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01-25-2007 20:11
Actually I think the flag was a bit tactless, but could possibly depend on how it was displayed.

But, he's get banned for that in a world where sexual age playing and giant genitails are given the green light is rather mind boggling.
Mickey McLuhan
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01-25-2007 20:18
What part of "It's a Nazi flag" did you miss?
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Reece Gunawan
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01-25-2007 20:20
From: Mickey McLuhan
What part of "It's a Nazi flag" did you miss?


I second that.
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Victoria Kelly
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01-25-2007 20:24
I didn't.... just like there is one hanging in the local museum.....

It all depends on how it was displayed....is he a WWII buff an had all the flags of all the combatants hanging?? Possibly approiate

Was he running around SL waving it...inapproiate

My entire point was... with all the questionable behavior that is permitted if not encouraged, that is a minor blip on the radar of what would offend me
Mickey McLuhan
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01-25-2007 20:30
A Nazi flag doesn't bother you.

Ageplay and big willies don't bother me.

Who wins?
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Usagi Musashi
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01-25-2007 20:31
why don`t people read the WHOLE posting instead (what indeed breaking TOS which he did..........) But He brings up a good volid point.........LLabs at times soley with their minds hence for applies banning at own liking..........

What about all those poor people that has been abused and LLabs has not addressed? A sign of bad taste by the first poster is nothing to what LLabs is doing to others by not taking action on those that break TOS in the case, caging, hitting with objects and guns etc..........
Usagi Musashi
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01-25-2007 20:33
You know how many time I come in to a sim or isalnd and some stupid underage no brained starting writing and shouting in japanese insulting and degrading remarks? More then you see a nazi flag around second life.........
Mickey McLuhan
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01-25-2007 20:36
The difference, Usagi, is that both parties broke the rules.
Posting offensive images is against the rules. That's not up for dispute.
Caging and greifing are against the rules. THAT is not up for dispute.

People get punished for breaking the rules. One of the punishments is banning.
People do get banned for griefing. It happens all the time.

The reason the guy got banned is because... well, I guess I have to say it again.

IT'S A NAZI FLAG!

It's like someone complaining for being banned for greifing because other griefers get away with it.

Get it?
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Osgeld Barmy
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01-25-2007 20:43
From: Mickey McLuhan
It's a Nazi frickin' flag, man.


that amuses me (the quote not the flag)
Usagi Musashi
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01-25-2007 20:48
From: Mickey McLuhan
The difference, Usagi, is that both parties broke the rules.
Posting offensive images is against the rules. That's not up for dispute.
Caging and greifing are against the rules. THAT is not up for dispute.?



Pardon me but IF you read my post I said the first poster DID INDEED break TOS...So whats your point? But If yoou read my posting ther is alot of abuse reports that are just laughted at that are more serious then this one......

when I said how many time i sent in abuse reports on dum **** that make maded bad tacky and outright degrading about japanese? More then you can image..........Did LLabs do anything about it. HAHAHAHAHAH thats what i think about abuse reporting and how they handle them these days. They can careless.
Molly MacKay
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01-25-2007 20:55
Given the OP last name, I think it may be a trolling attempt...
Strife Onizuka
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01-25-2007 21:04
As long as I can remember, Nazi imagery has been against the rules in SL.

From: Guidelines
Recourse: If Linden Lab takes disciplinary action against you that you believe was unfair or inconsistent, you may appeal the decision. An appeal is an e-mail explaining your situation and why you believe you should not have been disciplined. Appeals must be sent to [email=abuse@secondlife.com]abuse@secondlife.com[/email], and must follow this appeals procedure, or they will not be considered. You may submit only one appeal per disciplinary action.


*locked and sent to LR*


Torley Linden:
Per the above, this thread remains closed. It's not appropriate to post public appeals in the forums.
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