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How to find class of a sim

Susanne Pascale
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07-03-2007 11:48
How do you find out if a particular sim is Class IV, Class V or whatever? IS there a list somewhere?
Innes McLeod
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07-03-2007 12:33
Hi Susanne, There is no way to determine that anymore. From what I have been able to determine the sims move around from server to server when they crash. You might be on a class V today and a class III tomorrow. I have watched our home sim change physical server 3 times in one day. Here is a link to a message regarding that information.

/139/80/151757/1.html

...and here is a utility that will let you determine your current server and what other sims are sharing server space with you.

http://neighbours.maxcase.info/index.php
Meade Paravane
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07-03-2007 12:51
From: Innes McLeod
Hi Susanne, There is no way to determine that anymore.

True.

From: Innes McLeod
From what I have been able to determine the sims move around from server to server when they crash. You might be on a class V today and a class III tomorrow.

Untrue. A sim may move to a different physical server but will only move to one of the same class. If you have a class 5, it won't *ever* suddenly (or even slowly) end up being a class 4.

The class is actually talking about the hardware recipe, not the sim. When LL creates a new sim, they specify which class of server that sim can run on. "Sim class" isn't really accurate - it's more like "server class that the sim should run on."
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Maximillian Desoto
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07-03-2007 17:52
Just another clarification:

In official parlance, a square on the map is called a REGION

A REGION runs on a piece of software called a SIM

A SIM runs on a physical SERVER of a certain class

When a REGION goes down, it will always come back on the same class of Server.
Innes McLeod
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07-03-2007 19:16
From: Meade Paravane

Untrue. A sim may move to a different physical server but will only move to one of the same class. If you have a class 5, it won't *ever* suddenly (or even slowly) end up being a class 4.

The class is actually talking about the hardware recipe, not the sim. When LL creates a new sim, they specify which class of server that sim can run on. "Sim class" isn't really accurate - it's more like "server class that the sim should run on."



Thats not assured anywhere. If it was, then there would be a way to tell what class a sim is based on it's start date. Our home sim was lauched at the time servers were going from from 4 to 5's. I have watched our sim bounce around all over the server numbers from as low as 5 to as high as as 3000. On occasion we have been sharing server space with some of the oldest sims on the grid.

Based on our server neighbors, I would be willing to bet no one is assured of anything. We have been on the same server with old islands, and with new sims on the Nautalis continent.
Sindy Tsure
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07-03-2007 20:19
From: Innes McLeod
Thats not assured anywhere.

Er.. Except where LL has said it works that way.

From: Innes McLeod
If it was, then there would be a way to tell what class a sim is based on it's start date.

Do you think Da Boom, the first sim, is still on a class 1 server?

From: Innes McLeod
Our home sim was lauched at the time servers were going from from 4 to 5's. I have watched our sim bounce around all over the server numbers from as low as 5 to as high as as 3000.

The numbers in the sim DNS name used to contain the server class - that's how Max Case's stuff worked. Last summer (or so) LL changed the naming convention and the numbers are now sorta meaningless.

Maybe LL changed things so that a sim could run on any class of server but that's not what they said the last time they talked about this stuff...
Innes McLeod
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07-03-2007 20:30
From: Sindy Tsure
Er.. Except where LL has said it works that way.


Do you think Da Boom, the first sim, is still on a class 1 server?


The numbers in the sim DNS name used to contain the server class - that's how Max Case's stuff worked. Last summer (or so) LL changed the naming convention and the numbers are now sorta meaningless.

Maybe LL changed things so that a sim could run on any class of server but that's not what they said the last time they talked about this stuff...


Do you have a link to where they said that, I would be interested in seeing it.

I seriously doubt that any class 1 servers are still working, probably no class 2 by now either.

I make my assumption of movement on the basis that they stated that there was 'no way to determine the server clas of any particular sim'. Supposedly even they do not know... That part makes no sense to me, but then again, that may explain some of the problems we have at times.

Our sim was lauched late last October, and has shared the server at times with very new sims (less than a month old), and sims on the oldest continent at the exact same time.
Wildefire Walcott
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07-03-2007 20:33
From: Innes McLeod
Our home sim was lauched at the time servers were going from from 4 to 5's. I have watched our sim bounce around all over the server numbers from as low as 5 to as high as as 3000. On occasion we have been sharing server space with some of the oldest sims on the grid.

Well that's because LL actually upgrades servers now and then. There aren't any more class 2 servers, to my knowledge, so sims who used to be class 2 may well be your 'sim neighbors' today since they were upgraded to class 4 or 5 status.

Twice now, one of my own sims has had terrible lag problems due to being colocated with super-laggy mainland sims (image time and net time affect all sims on a server), but it's not because I ended up on a lower-class server- it's because the sims I'm rooming with suck. Thank goodness a sim restart fixes that.
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Sindy Tsure
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07-03-2007 20:37
From: Innes McLeod
Do you have a link to where they said that, I would be interested in seeing it.

Try clicking Search and entering "server class" (with the quotes). Hits in the old Linden Answers forum is probably a good place to start.
Aleister Montgomery
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07-03-2007 20:50
From: Innes McLeod
Thats not assured anywhere. If it was, then there would be a way to tell what class a sim is based on it's start date. Our home sim was lauched at the time servers were going from from 4 to 5's. I have watched our sim bounce around all over the server numbers from as low as 5 to as high as as 3000. On occasion we have been sharing server space with some of the oldest sims on the grid.

Based on our server neighbors, I would be willing to bet no one is assured of anything. We have been on the same server with old islands, and with new sims on the Nautalis continent.


It was assured on the blog. I'm too lazy to dig it out, but when the price increase for islands was announced, dunnowhatshisname Linden wrote that a newly purchased class 5 sim will always run on class 5 servers.
Aleister Montgomery
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07-03-2007 20:52
From: Susanne Pascale
How do you find out if a particular sim is Class IV, Class V or whatever? IS there a list somewhere?


You can send an email to [email]concierge@lindenlab.com[/email] and ask about the server class. At least when you own the sim.
Yumi Murakami
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Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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07-03-2007 21:27
As I understand it, the rule is:

If
a) you are paying $195 in tier for your sim, AND
b) it was ordered prior to the "$195 last chance" period last November
then your sim is class 4, else it is class 5.

Of course, they may have all been upgraded by now. With this new travelling sim system, it wouldn't be in LL's interest to have to keep around lots of last-generation servers for the older sims to roam between..

(And also, my $195 sim went voice enabled last Thursday, which was a surprise, as I thought that was going to be withheld from grandfathered sims. So maybe they're being upgraded, too.)