what about a resi maitained begginers guide wiki?

I wa s thinking we should perhaps have a resi written beggniners guid/knowledge base to help newbies,a nd avoid abswering the same thing in the forums over and over again, the adress for the wiki (and perhaps for indivudal sections) would beput in a sticky here

the first section i would think of would be about how to make money in-game, but there are several frequently asked questions that would also fit there

I think the F1 feature in world may cover most basic questions

then why do we have this forum, and why the answer for all questions ins't "go to the game and press F1"?

Actually I like the idea of a beginners wiki. There are alot of people that might be willing to submit information to such a thing that do not read or post in forums. Also if it became comprehensive enough LL might be willing to link it into the help menu in the client itself.

What are the frequently asked questions you are thinking of? Are they answered in the LL Knowledgebase?

There was until recently a Linden provided user editable support wiki. This has been replaced with the LL Knowledgebase.

Here's a wiki in case anyone feels like playing with one: http://second-life-user-guide.wikispaces.com .

Good question, but if you call Live Help and ask basic questions they will tell you to use the F1 feature... it was implemented not too long I don't think very many people know about....
Anyways, it was just a suggestion...

yay!!
I am not sure if I know enought to help, and besides, I suck at startiing things from scratch, but once there is a few things already in there to allow me to get a feel of what I can put in I will probably contribute to some articles

We have some beginners guides over at http://sl.stratics.com - and we're looking for new staff members to join us in writing them. You can look on our site for information on applying, or visit our in-world presence at Rosieri; there's also a classified advertisment on the same subject.

Lewis

I started another SL wiki at seedwiki, I put in one or two bits of stuff. No one has added a word. Including me.

It's easy to start one of these free wiki's. Putting in the information is the bad part. It's kind of like when home computers first got popular, and folks thought they'd put all their recipes into the computer. Problem was, they had to type them in, and when they got through they'd just have the same recipes they had when they started, but now they'd be on a computer instead of something that would fit conveniently on the kitchen counter.

Hmm, that wiki page just asked if Osprey could be a member, I didn't realize I would have to authorize people to contribute. There are different permission settings, and the "let anyone at all edit" seemed too permissive, I thought I was picking one where any member registered with the wiki farm outfit would be able to edit, just a bit less open than anyone at all.

This outfit seems to let you upload pictures and even "media", which might include music or videos, I suppose. It gives you 2 gigs of space to start with and offers more upon request. The not-for-free packages give you things like a private wiki or more control on who can edit and other such niceties.

Another somewhat different sort of place one could start a collaborative document is Writely, the online multi-user word processor now operated by Google.

I'm sure wiki-guru's would snort derisively at these simple wikis but when all it takes to start one is to put "free wiki" in Google and ten minutes later you are wiki-in' at no charge, hey, who cares what they wiki guru's think?

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Ok, learning as I go, I have now made Osprey Therian also an organizer, so she can invite people who have signed up with the wiki place to also edit material. I assume that this means that Osprey can also make people organizers as well.

The url is http://wikispaces.com to sign up.

An organizer can invite people either by email or by there wikispace user name, so if you don't want to give out an email address to another SL user you can sign up with wikispace and get invited to edit status with your wikispace username.

one idea fro not starting completelly from scratch would be pasting there a couple of the threads here in this forum, for example (remembering to consor any names that didn't gave authorization to be quoted), and editingand formating as the time goes by

An argument for why we need both the wiki format and the F1.

Some people think differently. I for example do much better at FINDING information in a wiki than I do with F1.

F1 is just big annoyance to me.

About the F1 help, it's good for what it covers, but how do you get people to read it?

People ask questions that are answered in that material all the time.

It would be nice to see this same info available in audio form, and video form, for folks who, for whatever reason, don't want to read it.

Tigro, get over there and start working. You can write a page about how you felt to begin with, and things you found helpful. We all have something useful to add.

I am afraid that could get too personal, too blogish, but I guess I coul give it a try

Yay!

Well, there is a lot about the Wiki I don't understand, and I have a fair amount of iffiness on it.

There IS a sort of Wiki, or rather, a couple of them, that I have found on the support page. However, they really aren't all that useful, I've found, for the questions I've had. It's hard to find things on them, not all of it is up-to-date, last I looked (admittedly quite a while ago), and you can't find what you are looking for on them.

I find it's much better just to ask people on the forums, then I get a quick and up-to-date answer.

Those, I think, are what is meant by the "SL Wiki."

And moreover, it's not like just anyone can contribute. My understanding is that although it is purportedly an LL thing, actually a couple of residents run them, and you have to be friends with the residents before you can contribute.

Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.

coco

Jump into the one SuezanneC just made if you are in the mood -
http://second-life-user-guide.wikispaces.com

There was a support wiki for a long time, run by Linden Lab, editable by any Second Life member. It had a great deal of information in it, a lot of it obsolete and thus inacurate, as you pointed out. The support wiki was not run by residents and you didn't have to be anyone's friend to edit it. A good bit of this information has been transferred into the Knowledgebase, including, unfortunately, some obsolete and thus inacurate info.

There are free wikis, that anyone can start, with absolutely zero technical knowledge about wiki-ing.

The well known LSL wiki has been removed from Linden control and is once again in the hands of Catherine Omega, who started it in the first place. It's true that this will mean that Catherine Omega can deny edit privileges to those she wishes, which is as it ought to be, since it is her operation. This does not translate into having to be her friend in order to edit the LSL wiki. What it means is that Catherine can deny edit rights to her wiki when people do such things as include links to irrelevant material, chronicly provide incorrect information, makes changes which are blatantly bad changes requiring repeated restoration of good material, etc. Wikis suffer from griefers just like Second Life does, and sometimes it's necessary to kick them out.

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TigroSpottystripes Katsu joined the new wiki at http://second-life-user-guide.wikispaces.com a little while ago, and is now an organizer, which means she can invite people into the wiki space so they can add and edit material.

woah!I didn't asked for that repsponsability...I am a afraid that since I awlays expect the best from people I might compromise the wiki :/
I would be way more confortable being just another pawn....

I don't see any way to demote you - you will just have to bear the burden of authority.

You might be able to demote yourself, I don't know, I haven't even read the instructions for the thing yet.

I have gotten as far in the instructions as seeing that there is some way to incorporate a blog into the space. I guess I might start a blogger blog or such.

I added a couple of details here and there, put some tags and started a glossary(which as with the rest fo the wiki still need lots of work put into it), and as ususal when I do big and/or important things I feel like what I did needs to be checked by others in case I failed (which aparently happens way less than i think it would)

as for the responsability, since it seems at least two people (last time I checked) share that responsability, I 'll simply not be so active in the higher spheres, letting the others handle those kinds of things, except when I feel my input would really be important in a positive way or if the group and/or comunity asks me to