Newbee - > Building, Halted, Partical Full

Hi there, have have just bought my first block and am currently building my first home here. Construction has suddenly been haltered with a message advising me that the "parcel full". I am building on a small block of around 128sqm
Can anyone tell me what this means & give me advice so I can overcome this issue & continue building?

Hi,

"Parcel Full" means that you have exceeded the prim limit of the parcel. Most lots have a limit of 117 prims/512 sq.m. of land. Right click on the ground, click on "About Land", click on the Objects tab, and see how many prims are on the land. It may be that other people have prims on your land......you can return these.

Do they not give out a notecard or somthing during orientation explaining the very basics about prim allocation in relation to parcel size etc? Personally I cannot remember but seems to be allot of noobs about who don't know their arse from their elbow and allot of these simples 'rules' of second life should be covered during orientation.

THe number of prims ( the building blocks of SL ) that each parcel of land supports is directly related to the size of the parcel. like it was previously posted, you can easily see what prims are currently in use on a parcel of land by right clicking the land and looking at the objects tab. Near the bottom is abutton that causes the dialog to refresh, naming each avatar who has prims on the plot.

From what I've seen during my time in SL (born in October), a large number of noobs are bypassing Help Island and going directly to mainland without taking any time to learn the interface, much less the culture of SL.

I've had half-naked noobs wander onto my property, totally bewildered and without any idea of how they got here, or where to go. And you routinely get noobs only a day or two old showing up on this forum asking "Okay, now what do I do?"

Answer: Read.

That's what I did before I joined, just after I joined, and ever since. I read the blogs, the knowledge base, the notecards, the forums. I return to the Public Help islands to review things I've missed and to answer to questions from noobs who take the time to learn.

PS. This post was not a response to the OP, just to Porky's comment.

128m gives you 29 prims, easily exceeded by even a very small build.

The problem is that the HI system just couldn't cope with the flood. Based on statistics I've seen on blogs and elsewhere, it seems that Second Life is adding a new user every ten seconds. At peak, it seems to have been every two seconds. The volunteer mentoring system just couldn't take it.

Even if they do, most people don't read the notecards.

I rent out condos that are newbie friendly (cheap). My rental system gives the renter notecards that explain prims, keeping track, etc and yet it is common to have people exceeding their prim limit by *hundreds* of prims.

Gets tedious after a while...returning stuff...explaining...lather, rinse, repeat

Some just cannot be bothered to learn.

-2fast

I don't know I have had that message when I had free prims in fact one time I had 40 prims left was dragging a 4 prim item and got the message.
Then later had no problem.
The only thing I can think is I dragged the 4 prim object on neighbor's lot.

Wow 128 as first plot. It's a shame that such a small parcel was even tried. No fault of yours just the conditions that you found when arriving.

I think the newb curve could be slightly enhanced by having large billboard type signs along the path the newbs travel.
As you walk towards each one you could read each one in turn, rather than clicking on the 'SL Hand' help station signs, but you can have them too, of course.
Like;
___________
"PRIM LIMIT"
(117)
----------------
Might not LOOK as nice but they are harder to avoid. Just like all our highways, and byways for that matter.
I would reckon a lot of people walk right past all the help stations as said before.

When I joined in late November, Help Island was a molasses swamp of sardine-packed people and unrezzed grey. And, of course, as a newb I had no clue how to minimize lag issues. I spent about half an hour there, during which I could barely move more than a dozen meters and couldn't read any of the signs because they never fully rezzed. Bailing and throwing myself on the mainland was a survival measure -- it was that or give up on SL entirely.

Of course, I've spent plenty of time since trying to educate myself. But this is one area where I'll be a little more patient with ignorance than I usually am.

I don't remember there being anything on Help or Orientation Islands that gave that much detail on ownership of land. Even if it did, people really aren't ready to absorb that much information until after they've had a chance to wander around.

There are a bunch of building tutorials, but they're slow and painful to go through. They're similar to the typical vending display, where there's just one image large enough to read, so everybody has to read the same thing at any given time. The only way to go through at your own speed is if no one else is around - fat chance. So even people who are interested in building are likely to skip these. People who aren't interested in building, or don't realize they'll have to learn it to do what they want, have no reason to even try. Maybe there's something I missed, but I tried to circumnavigate all of Orientation Island.

The tutorial approach at The Ivory Tower is far superior.

Maybe it was an omen, but the SL viewer crashed on me when I was going through Help Island and Orientation Island. Upon relogging, I ended up getting pushed off into some nearby mainland (Barcola and Sistiana, I believe). Consequently, I never realized that they were called Help Island and Orientation Island. hehe. But I did try to read everything.

Yes there are annoying newbies who ask same question over and over again.
I am sorry for those people.
The learning curve is steep and very disorientating. Sometimes its bit overwhelming.
Sometimes its lot overwhelming. What makes it worse is isolation sometimes though.
It takes a lot of reading as new person in game sometimes unless there someone to help you can't even view signs or even understand them.
Sometimes I read things I don't get it still. Especially the more advance stuff like scripting or land management things like deeds.
I have 1st life neighbor I ran into who said he played 2nd life briefly hasn't been back for a month because he became so frusterated he couldn't figure out things like how to change his appearance.
In long run if there isn't more for new comers who aren't skilled at programing, content making the world will be less populated place. People will join may come over for few times and not return.

FD Spark is absolutely correct. I consider myself reasonably computer literate, and after nearly a year in world, I'm still surprised and sometimes confused.

For example, PERMISSIONS. How do they REALLY work? You can spend months just reading the forums on permissions...
And TIER...I've read everything available on how land and tier works...and I still get confused...
And the VIEWER!!! Whenever things get sticky in SL, there's always some secret 'DEBUG' menu item in the Client or Server menus that will 'fix' the problem...but has anyone EVER SEEN a description of what each of those 'debug' menu items is supposed to do??? (and don't even start explaining why users are sent to 'debug mode' in the first place.)

So, today, when you're one of the 30,000 folks running around in SL, take a moment and help a newbie...I've come to discover that WE'RE ALL STILL NEWBIEs...its just a question of 'Newbie at which part of SL?'