Money Trees - what's wrong with them sometimes?
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Ron Spitteler
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02-19-2007 00:33
I noticed that sometimes the money-trees seem not to work 100%, is that right?
Sometimes there are L$-bills in a tree but when clicking on them nothing happens and the bills remain in the tree.
Sometimes the tree indicates that the tree contains L$3 or L$ 7 or sometimes even L$ 20 but no bills or fruits are visible.
Does anyone if this is bug or what?
I have seen several people wondering about this.....
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Reece Gunawan
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02-19-2007 00:48
Some people have implemented limits on how much money a person can obtain. This is to prevent computer programs (bots) from getting all the money that was intended for new players.
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Ron Spitteler
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02-19-2007 00:54
You mean the L$25.00 limit per tree????
That's not the problem in this case because it happens when you arrive at a tree and when there are only a couple of bills inside as well!!
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Reece Gunawan
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02-19-2007 01:03
Well, that's a serious problem then! I'm not sure if the people have implemented this, however I've heard of people denying by SL age (i.e. nobody who's been in SL more than blank days may pick money). In that case, you'd have no option to pick the money -- other than creating a new account which will of course cost you real money to make.
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Ron Spitteler
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02-19-2007 01:39
I know, but I am in SL 19 days now ... so that's also not the case.
Well it is not a big problem of course but I am just curious whatthe problem is..........
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Serenarra Trilling
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02-19-2007 03:55
Are you absolutely sure that there's not an Alpha Texture part of the tree between you and the "money" when you click on it? You could be actually clicking on part of the tree, which wouldn't let you get the money.
I had the same problems you describe in my newbie days, and when I later got into working with alphas it occured to me that it could happen.
As far as them not being visible - there were times when it took quite a bit of work to find them, like putting my point of view directly above or below the tree. I think sometimes they are hidden too well.
If you are absolutely sure that neither of these is the case, I would IM the owner and just ask "what's up with this".
I wish you luck on this. I remember how frustrating it was at times.
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Ylikone Obscure
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02-19-2007 04:51
In my first few days in SL I visited a lot of money trees and I noticed the exact same problem. Most of the time, the $1 bills are very easy to find as they are immediately visible. The fruits are usually hidden higher in the tree and sometime impossible to see if you are at the wrong camera location and angle. You got to use the camera control and get into the middle of the tree to search around. So, although some fruit items took nearly 10-15 minutes of searching in the tree to find, there was the odd occasion when I couldn't find that remaining $1 or $5... regardless that I hadn't picked the tree's AV limit yet. But I figure what happened was that the fruit or dollar had rezzed inside the tree trunk or somewhere else that just couldn't been seen by moving the camera controls around.
EDIT: Ok, here is something I just tried... to help you find the stuff in the tree, press your "Build" button, then select the "Edit" tool. Pull your camera control out and over the tree, then drag your mouse over it. This should reveal the outlines of where the items are in the tree.
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Annabelle Vandeverre
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02-19-2007 05:05
You might also try playing with the sliders in your graphics settings to see through the especially thick tree branches. And zoom in close to make sure you're not clicking on an alpha texture for the tree instead of the bill itself. That is the issue I think you are having when you click on it and nothing happens.
Yes, I remember these days - angling the camera to every conceivable place to try to get me $1L! Trying to click on the $1L bill before the alpha texture on the branch swayed back over it! Trying to get that $1L before the person next to me figured out how to get it! And the fruit - yippee!!
Sorry, those were exciting times.
There were certain trees that I didn't even bother with because for some reason I could never see anything in those particular trees, no matter how much money it said it had in them. And a couple of trees out there would occasionally say they were giving me $1L, and it would vanish from the tree, but the money never went into my account.
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Ron Spitteler
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02-19-2007 06:03
Hahah, pretty much excitement!! I guess most of the people older than 1 month wish they could still go after the dollar-bills!!
It is not important, but it is fun.................!!!
I don't think there is an alpha-layer in front of the bills because sometimes a bills lies on the ground with nothing else close and still it cannot be clicked.
I know about the well hidden fruits; I regularly 'climb' in the tree by selecting flying and turn around slowly to search the inside of the tree. One times I found a very well hidden pair of cherries this way ............ wow, what an excitement.
Anyway, I know I will still be looking for the bills in the approx. 2 weeks I have remaining for it...... Yesterday was my lucky day: I found the golden bill !!!!
Thanks for all the tips and see you in-world!!
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Neal McAlpine
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02-19-2007 07:54
It makes a money harvester's life much easier when turning off rendering of the trees. To do so, in the "Client" menu (activated by pressing CTRL-ALT-D iirc) select "Rendering", "Types" and then "Trees". For the prim tress selecting "Hide selected" is useful - rightclick the tree and then leftclick the bill(s). I've seen some of the trees you described, Ron. Both trees in Nadata for example have one such "invisible buck" I think, same with Pimushe, Plush Micron, Plush Terra ...... Nadata is a lag hole anyway, so most of the time I simply left it out on my tours. Money Trees.... Those were the days... *sighs* 
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Chellonia Regent
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02-19-2007 08:57
This is why I always tell noobies to go for money trees rather then camping. You learn quite a bit doing it, see the world and practice camera control - while picking up some small change. From: Ron Spitteler I don't think there is an alpha-layer in front of the bills because sometimes a bills lies on the ground with nothing else close and still it cannot be clicked. I've seen some of those. They are just the SL equivalent of somebody glueing a coin to the floor to watch people struggle to pick it up. Another tip to try along with the others that people have mentioned is to right click a note or fruit that you are trying to pick. If you are actually touching a part of the tree or other alpha texture - the whole tree will be outlined in yellow. You can then reposition your camera and try again. If you have selected the note it will be outlined in yellow and you can just select touch from the pie menu. If that doesn't work, its a bug or malfunctioning tree. From: Ron Spitteler Yesterday was my lucky day: I found the golden bill !!!!
Congrats!
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Cocoanut Koala
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02-19-2007 12:54
"Yes, I remember these days - angling the camera to every conceivable place to try to get me $1L! Trying to click on the $1L bill before the alpha texture on the branch swayed back over it! Trying to get that $1L before the person next to me figured out how to get it! And the fruit - yippee!!"
Lol, I remember that fondly, too!
Also, some of the trees are limited to only verfied accounts, and non-verified can't get the money off them. (Not mine.)
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Wilhelm Neumann
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02-19-2007 13:06
From: Cocoanut Koala
Also, some of the trees are limited to only verfied accounts, and non-verified can't get the money off them. (Not mine.)
coco
I put up the money pyramid instead I find them more fun hehe I have seen (and I think that there should be some monitoring of tree actualy ) trees that have like a transparent textured box around them that makes it almost impossible to get the money. I remember chatting an owner about it the box was gone for a day and then replaced (still trying to write a newbie book lol) the tricks I learned was how to turn of the trees in the debug menu and how to use the turn of selected if you touch it (works on prims not seen as trees by the debugger) for finding "the loot" I found it great for sight seeing mainly and Later returned to shop or be entertained or whatnot. To this day there are areas that I still go to often as a result of having found them when I was new via money trees. Also the bills on the ground to my knowledge once they hit the ground they are no longer active (not sure how that works) but the fruit is "dead" hehe
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Stephanie Abernathy
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02-20-2007 10:59
Ron, Back when i still did the tree thing, there were 3 types of money trees out there:
#1 was an asian themed one and it worked perfectly. But i don't recall who made it.
#2 was made by Bravo Bravo and worked perfectly
#3 was made by a wolf something or other (sorry been too long ago, i don't recall who), and normally was always broken.
The Bravo tree was easy to differentiate from the Wolf tree. The base is a white hollow circular base surrounded by 4 small white obelisks (I guess that's the best word). The Wolf tree was on a black solid square base with 4 black obelisks. The Wolf tree money used a wolf head on it. The scripts were always broken on the wolf tree so that while the 1L's seemed to work, the 5, 10, & 20L's didn't. The wolf tree recognized the money there and showed it in the tree, but you could not pick it. I tended to ignore the wolf trees as sucker traps and not even visit places that used them.
That said... a long time has gone by. Other tree makers probably are on the scene now. And i find it difficult to think that Wolf whats-his-name wouldn't have fixed his trees after a year because he had a good rep with his other products. I've heard that there is a freebie version of the tree floating around... there used to be anyways. So what you probably encountered were trees where someone was trying to save a few L's by going with the freebie or a really low priced knock off that is poorly scripted. (i suspected that it was the pay on touch script in the money that was borked... either not detecting the touch or the pay out is messed up)
p.s. to get around the alpha texture issue: control-alt-shift-3 Turns off rendering on most trees, allowing you to see the money but not the tree. No more annoying tree impeding your click.
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Gemini Oh
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02-20-2007 11:22
I was told to use money trees instead of camping and shown to bravo bravo to get the money tree hud.
The money trees are broken.
I have visited over 20 trees (lost count after 20).
Every one of them would not give me money.
I used all the tricks mentioned here (turn tree render off, right click the bill, ctl+alt+t to make sure nothing invisible is blocking, etc). P.S. thanks for these suggestions folks.
I see my hand rise as i click the bill but nothing happens.
I would not be upset if only a few trees did not work but over 20 and ALL not working? (I didnt have the patience to try all 90+ in the hud).
I should qualify since I created the account yesterday (2.19.07) and have payment info used (bought a few linden for clothes shopping).
So I can only conclude that ALL the money trees are broken.
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Wilhelm Neumann
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02-20-2007 11:27
From: Gemini Oh So I can only conclude that ALL the money trees are broken.
I dont think that many are broken but I do know that the asset server is often limping hehe. Do your money tree picking during off peak times (you will get more lindens that way anyhow) when the populatin is under 20k users. Not sure your time zone but I will tell you that right now is a bad bad time due to the european users it starts to hit 30k about now and then things become unusable (even with the new contingency methods once the databas starts to get overloaded your clicking will be to no avail)
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Stephanie Abernathy
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02-20-2007 15:16
I agree with Wilhelm. I've read a blog comment just a little while ago commenting that transaction histories are now 5 hours behind.
I've think you've encountered our wonderful asset server being so overwhelmed that many functions are lagging behind.
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