Shannon Denneny
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Join date: 23 Aug 2006
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02-03-2010 13:52
Read the following in a profile and wondered if this is really a way to get around the rules:
ToS Warning - According to Linden Labs, disclosure of logs without prior consent is a violation of the ToS. I am clearly stating to you, that by IM'ing me, having read or not having read these statements, you consent to being logged and that those logs can be used at my discretion without any further notice beyond these statements in this "Pick". Furthermore, graphical rendering, voice chat, and all public chat is also subject to logging at any given time and may also be used at my discretion unless you say to me explicitly that you do not wish to have your statements disclosed. All matters conducted in plain view of a non-participating third party are considered public matters, even if in a private location within Secondlife, and are therefore not subject to privacy regulations of the terms of service. If you do not understand any of these statements, you may IM me and I will explain as needed. Any such conversation will not be disclosed. Contacting me outside of Secondlife forfeits all privacy rights.
Seems a bit dodgy to me - the person is NOT giving consent, especially if they don't even read this. (In this particular pro, it was #9 of 10).
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Phil Deakins
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02-03-2010 13:58
Logging IMs is allowed.
A statement that he can use the logged IMs in any way he wishes is fine as long as he sticks within the ToS; i.e. he can't disclose them openly in any LL system such as SL or this forum.
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Shannon Denneny
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02-03-2010 13:59
I guess that was the part I really wondered about - the using at his/her discretion.
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Naz Fride
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02-03-2010 14:00
That's like an EULA that tells you that "by installing this software, you consent to us coming to your home and pantsing you at least once per month." Just saying it don't make it so, and don't make it enforceable.
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Damien1 Thorne
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02-03-2010 14:01
They could be posted on websites, blogs, or forums that are not owned by LL.
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Windsweptgold Wopat
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02-03-2010 14:07
Simple dont say anything you think my come back and bite you. To me with I have said to ppl in IM i cant control if they go and tell another much like whispering a secret to someone in RL
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Brenda Connolly
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02-03-2010 14:09
Oh, how I would love to meet that pompous and arrogant bastard inworld. I'd ghive them something to log and repost. 
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