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Lib Second Life has GOOD uses.

Dimentox Travanti
DCS Coder
Join date: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 228
11-15-2006 06:07
Let me explain,

There are a ton of features that LIBSL has that are not TOS breaking, for example a off game in game chat.
My name to key website that queries a real time key instead of a db is another use.

What happened is a good idea has bad uses. Its not their fault. Who you should be targeting is the complete morons who are out to ruin the game.

I agree maybe LL needs to change some protocal specs to prevent the copy. But this is not LIB SL's fault as a dev they have an extremely usefull libary for LEGIT REASONS,

Your asking to ban and you prob teh same people asking for a SL out fo game Instant messenger. Well i guarentee you the IM tool will come from a 3rd party using lib SL.

Also do your facts on what it can copy. Perhaps the sky is falling.. and the end is near. YES LIBSL was wrong to release the copy code.. they shoulda thought about the results of releasing code like that. but it has its valid uses.

Please redirect all flames to /dev/null
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Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
11-15-2006 06:13
It wont matter what good stuff they've done if their latest irresponsible fuckup destroys SL, now will it?

But it won't. Because this will follow the usual pattern of being another week long mass whine followed by complete inaction, then apathy and resignation as they continue forking over money to LL in exchange for a regular shafting while they cross their fingers that they don't get too badly ripped off when they release their next line of content.
Jack Belvedere
GOHA Commissioner
Join date: 4 Aug 2004
Posts: 270
11-15-2006 06:39
It makes me think of the original nuclear scientists :D "Gee, let's develop this because we CAN, because anything that CAN be developed SHOULD be developed, yes, dang right, and hey it's not our fault if the world collapses into nuclear war. Blame the terrorists who got their hands on the weapon!"

A little overdramatic but you get the point. LibSL should take responsibility.
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Ralph Doctorow
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Join date: 16 Oct 2005
Posts: 560
11-15-2006 07:45
From: Jack Belvedere
It makes me think of the original nuclear scientists :D "Gee, let's develop this because we CAN, because anything that CAN be developed SHOULD be developed, yes, dang right, and hey it's not our fault if the world collapses into nuclear war. Blame the terrorists who got their hands on the weapon!"

A little overdramatic but you get the point. LibSL should take responsibility.
You might want to read a bit about what the original nuclear scientists actually thought. That is a complete and total mischaracterization.
Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
Posts: 3,431
11-15-2006 07:55
Spin it as much as you like, how do you explain that the whole groups activities - reverse engineering and creating derivative products - is explicitely prohibited in ToS 4.2

I eagerly await your answer.

Lewis
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grumble Loudon
A Little bit a lion
Join date: 30 Nov 2005
Posts: 612
11-15-2006 07:55
I agree that LibSL has good uses.
For example SLProxy could be expanded into SLCacheProxy so that you can cache all the data you want to.

The proxy could even be on a separate computer and it could share data to multiple clients.

At the same time I think LL MUST encrypt non full perm objects! LibSL can still get IM's and chat and objects that are full perm and owned by you. It would also still be able to cache encrypted objects.

From a legal perspective LL must do something in order to show that they intend to make the content secure.
Apollo Korvin
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Join date: 29 Jul 2005
Posts: 55
11-15-2006 08:07
"Huh? No.. I was just taking the smallpox and ebola test tubes home to work on, for a cure, I didnt *mean* to drop them and release them into grand central station.. its not *my* fault.. its the fault of er.. oh, all of you! you all knew that walking around without a full NBC suit meant you could get ill, where are your NBC suits, huh? huh? its not *my* fault...."

What a crock.

Where I was raised, you were responsible for your actions. Lib SL may have done some good stuff in the past, but lets get real here, nobody is stupid enough to not clock what copybot represents, and they fired it out with a loud cannon onto the internet and into our world.
Jack Belvedere
GOHA Commissioner
Join date: 4 Aug 2004
Posts: 270
11-15-2006 09:18
From: Ralph Doctorow
You might want to read a bit about what the original nuclear scientists actually thought. That is a complete and total mischaracterization.


As I said, the original post was an intentionally overdramatic statement, however, it gets a point across: the importance of taking responsibility for what you create. Just because they have a library of legitimate and useful items does not mean they had the right to release this copybot capable of causing so many problems. That's a good example of people not thinking before they act.
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