Can you refuse to sell to someone?
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Elinah Iredell
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10-02-2006 07:51
This is a hypothetical question as I have no intention of selling my land . I think I already know the answer but I want to know if you can refuse to sell to someone you dont like? For instance if you have a neighbor you dont get along with and who builds ugly buildings and you consider a troublemaker, but who would probably want to buy your land if you were selling it to increase their own, can you refuse to sell to them? Or do you have to sell to anyone who wants to buy? I hope this doesnt come across as mean sounding I was just curious.
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Ceera Murakami
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10-02-2006 08:00
More experienced land owners may be able to provide better information, but I believe the following is correct:
You can sell to whoever you please. But the mechanism for selling only to a owner-approved buyer makes selling the land more difficult.
If you set land to be for sale to anyone who provides the right amount of funds, the 'bad neighbor' would be eligible to buy.
But if you put a 'for sale' sign on the land, or to advertize it with a classified ad, and require the buyer to contact the owner, you can set the land to be for sale only to the person that you choose to sell to, after you approve them to buy it.
The main difference is that in the first case, your land can easily be found in the search tool and will sell fairly quickly, where in the second case, the land can't actually sell until a buyer contacts you and you set the land for sale to them only, at the agreed on price.
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Matt Newchurch
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10-02-2006 08:04
I had a similar situation with my own land. What I did was instead of putting it up for sale on the open market, I shopped it around to people in the area I thought might want it. Took a little time and effort, but in the end it worked. I sold my land and upgraded, a neighbor expanded, and the casino we both hate got nothing! Everybody wins!
Other thing I was going to do was post the land for a very high price on the market and say I'd take offers. In that scheme, if the casino bought it, I could afford to move far, far away (and not the parcel next door I had my eye on), and if not the 'or best offers' would be more in line with what I was actually looking to get for the land (i.e., reasonable market value). Would have been a way to 'screen' people looking for the land, since they'd have to go through me first to 'make an offer' rather than just hit 'buy' (And if they did just hit 'buy', score!!). In the end I decided that nobody would give it a second thought at the inflated price so I'd never get offers.
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Ceera Murakami
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10-02-2006 08:28
Matt, I considered advising that - the super-high price, and a note that reasonable offers will be considered. But it does screen you out of any search for land that is based on a reasonable price.
It would be nice if the 'Buy Land' option automaticly excluded purchase by an individual or group that was on the parcel's Ban list. Then one could list it openly, but the 'Bad neighbor' would be unable to buy if you added them to your ban list.
In fact... I am going to go post that as a feature suggestion! Surely if you have banned someone from your parcel, it is reasonable to assume you would be unwilling to sell them your land?
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Gene Jacobs
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10-02-2006 08:46
I say let the bad neighbor have it... Why would you want a good person to get stuck next to them?
Set the land just a little higher than going rate, and make the bad neighbor pay for it.
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Charmande Petion
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10-02-2006 10:31
What about refusing to sell items from a vendor to a certain person or people? I'm asking... is it against the TOS to have a "ban list" for a given vendor?
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Ceera Murakami
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10-02-2006 12:20
From: Charmande Petion What about refusing to sell items from a vendor to a certain person or people? I'm asking... is it against the TOS to have a "ban list" for a given vendor? Again, it is your choice. Standard vending systems don't have a way to exclude specific buyers. But there is no rule that says you can't custom-script one. For example, if you sold adult-oriented items, you might want to refuse to sell to people who are 'no payment info on file', since they might be kids. It is possible to script things to check for that. It would also be possible to have a short 'ban list' scripted into your vendor, so people on a 'don't sell to' list could not use that vendor.
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Island Granville
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10-02-2006 12:39
From: Charmande Petion What about refusing to sell items from a vendor to a certain person or people? I'm asking... is it against the TOS to have a "ban list" for a given vendor? If the vendor is on your land, and the people are on your ban list, they can't buy from your vendor. (Am I wrong?). If you rent space, you could ask your landlord to add the people to their ban list.
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Ceera Murakami
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10-02-2006 13:08
From: Island Granville If the vendor is on your land, and the people are on your ban list, they can't buy from your vendor. (Am I wrong?). If you rent space, you could ask your landlord to add the people to their ban list. Nope. They can stand outside your parcel, mouse in with their camera, and they can still buy from your vendor. If they choose the right debug options, they can even do it from at least one sim away. The only way to stop them form buying from your vendor is to add coding to your vendor that checks the ID of the buyer, and refuses to sell to them if they are on your vendor's ban list. (a notecard in the vendor, or an array in the script itself.)
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Ralph Doctorow
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10-02-2006 15:31
Alts are so easy to create that this seems pretty hard to really make work though.
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Nyx Divine
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10-02-2006 15:55
From: Gene Jacobs I say let the bad neighbor have it... Why would you want a good person to get stuck next to them? Set the land just a little higher than going rate, and make the bad neighbor pay for it. I like that! 
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Jakkal Dingo
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10-02-2006 16:11
Kayla Stonecutter has a vendor system that has a 'no sell' list. I use it myself. I won't let certain people or griefers buy my stuff.
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