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Mliss Ristow
SVU Intimate Animations
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06-02-2007 22:12
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Ashley Ennui
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ive signed
06-02-2007 22:18
everyone should
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Broken Xeno
~Fething Alt~
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06-02-2007 22:21
Signed it, for what it's worth. I doubt that any petition is going to change anything though.
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Warloc Alcott
Registered User
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06-03-2007 10:25
I'm in, erhhhh...on, erhhhhh..I signed.
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Lota Lyon
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signed also
06-03-2007 11:41
i just signed too and also have joined the group for a FREE SL but i also have doubts it will effect the greed pigs wanting to sell SL off to Corp. Amercia!
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Banking Laws
Realty Serious
Join date: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 602
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06-03-2007 12:39
i just signed too and also have joined the group for a FREE SL but i also have doubts it will effect the greed pigs wanting to sell SL off to Corp. Amercia! Someone's got to pay for it. SL's already free - you can get unverified accounts without dropping a dime. _____________________
"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid in posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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06-03-2007 12:52
Well I won't be signing a petition in support of depictions of sexual acts involving child avatars.
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Rusty Satyr
Meadow Mythfit
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06-03-2007 14:10
Well I won't be signing a petition in support of depictions of sexual acts involving child avatars. Did you read it? Sexual age-play was not even specifically mentioned in it, though it did seek clarification on various other forms of possibly 'broadly offensive' conduct/content. _____________________
Cory Linden: "As we’ve talked about, the long term goals for Second Life are to make it a more open platform."
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Har Fairweather
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
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06-03-2007 14:41
Signed.
You haven't yet? Why not? It is only a few mouse clicks. |
Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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06-03-2007 15:15
i just signed too and also have joined the group for a FREE SL but i also have doubts it will effect the greed pigs wanting to sell SL off to Corp. Amercia! Cool is there one for free WoW & free Coh, free DVD hire, free alcohol, free chicken, free, chocholate, and free 20M ADSL? _____________________
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Har Fairweather
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06-03-2007 15:18
Cool is there one for free WoW & free Coh, free DVD hire, free alcohol, free chicken, free, chocholate, and free 20M ADSL? I'm ok with just signing one for free people... |
Tempest Howl
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Join date: 2 Oct 2006
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06-03-2007 15:46
signed, also.. I joined a group called "I'm for a FREE Second Life" today. The charter is great and promotes a peaceful resolution to this issue. I strongly urge those of you who feel that this is a serious case of intolerance to join this group and give a voice to your thoughts.
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Suzi Sohmers
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06-03-2007 15:51
Did you read it? Sexual age-play was not even specifically mentioned in it, though it did seek clarification on various other forms of possibly 'broadly offensive' conduct/content. It was actially. Quote:- "In the blog post LL describes depictions of sex with children as “broadly offensive”. Who specifically is offended by that role-play if it is conducted only between consenting adults in private?" I will not be signing. |
Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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06-03-2007 15:54
Did you read it? Sexual age-play was not even specifically mentioned in it, though it did seek clarification on various other forms of possibly 'broadly offensive' conduct/content. I read it and Suzi Sohmers above has highlighted the paragraph that made me decide not to sign it. |
Cozmo Yoshikawa
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Join date: 19 May 2007
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06-03-2007 16:54
It's their grid, they can do with it as they please, and I would expect them to.
When the server is opensourced and people can run their own sims with no affiliation of the SL corporate entity, then it follows that freedom of expression will be more "free", depending of course on the guidelines set forth by the individuals running the particular sims. Until then, the grid as a whole is in many ways a single community, and before they transition to a decentralized model they need to protect that community so it's usable by everyone. |
Zaphod Kotobide
zOMGWTFPME!
Join date: 19 Oct 2006
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06-03-2007 18:54
I won't sign it, for the following reasons:
1) It asks for too much specificity We've been down this road before. You cannot expect them to specify each and every activity that is "okay" and each and every activity that is "not okay". Think about this, and how silly it is. 2) It asks "who" specifically is offended by depictions of sex with children. Notwithstanding the fact that this question is impossible to answer, I ask, who isn't? (two adults consenting does not create a right to behave a certain way, either in Second Life or in First Life) 3) It requests a poll be taken of Second Life residents. There is currently no fair, and accurate mechanism in place to do this. How does the author propose this be done? 4) It's very possible that Daniel misspoke. Let's get a clarification from him before we settle down with conclusions. Why are we focusing on the sexual ageplay thing anyway? All these questions relating to that topic. Why is that single issue so important to the community? Or is it? Why are people defending "the right" of two consenting adults to engage in adult-on-child sexual role play? That's my burning question. Rusty, you're a voice of reason, can you take this one on? _____________________
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Peggy Paperdoll
A Brat
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
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06-03-2007 19:01
I'm not signing it. Read a little bit of it and quit. Too narrow minded with no room for anyone to compromise.
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Broken Xeno
~Fething Alt~
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06-03-2007 19:06
I signed it, I should have read it more closely beforehand, but ehhh.
It's not going to make a difference in the end. It's a petition to who? Linden Labs can easily ignore it, it has no standing with them. _____________________
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Banking Laws
Realty Serious
Join date: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 602
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06-03-2007 19:08
Signed. You haven't yet? Why not? It is only a few mouse clicks. Because its a false petition. Thats why. Oh and heres a quote: The company now ask residents to “notify Linden Lab about locations in-world that are violating our Community Standards regarding broadly offensive and potentially illegal content.” and a quote from the CS 5. Indecency Second Life is an adult community, but Mature material is not necessarily appropriate in all areas (see Global Standards below). Content, communication, or behavior which involves intense language or expletives, nudity or sexual content, the depiction of sex or violence, or anything else broadly offensive must be contained within private land in areas rated Mature (M). Names of Residents, objects, places and groups are broadly viewable in Second Life directories and on the Second Life website, and must adhere to PG guidelines. http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php As noted, only 'indecent, etc' acts and displays on PG sims are illegal and agaisnt CS. Those on mature sims do not violate the Community Standards. _____________________
"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid in posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
- Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President |
Aleister Montgomery
Minding the gap
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06-03-2007 22:26
Someone's got to pay for it. SL's already free - you can get unverified accounts without dropping a dime. It's mostly us residents who pay for it. How much land is owned by RL enterprises, compared to the land mass owned by residents? How many classified ads are placed by those companies, compared to the ads placed by SL businesses operated by residents? Not to speak of the LindeX throughput. Both LL and the resident community can live without RL corporations. But LL can't exist without the residents, and these corporations would have no reason to pay for an SL presence without having anyone to be present to. |
Aleister Montgomery
Minding the gap
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06-03-2007 22:46
1) It asks for too much specificity We've been down this road before. You cannot expect them to specify each and every activity that is "okay" and each and every activity that is "not okay". Think about this, and how silly it is. It's not silly at all. Laws can't possibly work without clear definitions. "Broadly offensive" is the blurriest definition ever, or rather no definition at all. Imagine that all RL laws on violent crimes, indecency etc. would be replaced by a single sentence in the lines of "Just do nothing violent or otherwise offensive, and you're fine. Otherwise we'll roast your sorry ass on the electric chair and annex your monetary and real estate property." Would such an unspecific law be ok for you? |
Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
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06-03-2007 23:15
I signed it, I should have read it more closely beforehand, but ehhh. You missed the clauses concerning your first born son and "Right to drink from the carton" then, I guess? ![]() _____________________
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Suzy Hazlehurst
Offensive Broad
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06-04-2007 00:59
Signed.
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Broken Xeno
~Fething Alt~
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06-04-2007 01:04
You missed the clauses concerning your first born son and "Right to drink from the carton" then, I guess? ![]() Oh hell no, no one takes my right to drink from the carton away!! _____________________
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Rusty Satyr
Meadow Mythfit
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06-04-2007 02:00
Given the choice of broadly offensive content or behavior...
I'd rather put up with two old men dressing up as little girls to misbehave than have to sit in the bathroom with those two two old men after they've had a copious amount of some (insert a difficult to digest ethnic) form of fast food. "Broadly Offensive" wouldn't begin to describe that scene... and yet people aren't rushing around trying to ban (some difficult to digest ethnic food). I have NO tolerance for child molestation. I also have no tolerance for stupid laws that ban "make believe" stuff. _____________________
Cory Linden: "As we’ve talked about, the long term goals for Second Life are to make it a more open platform."
SecondLife: LL made the bottle... we made the whine, er, wine. |