Can we get some EXACT definite answers as to how the SL homepage stats are generated?

To me.... these homepage stats are not important.... because I don't even know what they mean!! Neither do a lot of SL users. I think we should get exact descriptions regarding how these numbers are generated. To me, if LL is not describing what it is by being vague about it and using blanket terminology, it seems like false advertising.

I really just want to know what each of these actually means, and how these numbers are achieved:

Total Residents.... this we all already know is false. This should read 'Total Registrations' or 'Total Signups' ....I have a feeling something like 10% to 20% of people sign up, and then they find out their computer can't handle SL.

Logged in the Last 60 days... does this mean unique accounts in the last 60 days? or anytime anyone logs onto SL... example: I log on, I log off, I log on... does that count as 2?

Also, why wouldn't LL want to put this stat up: 'Unique IP addresses signed on in the last 60 days' ?

Online Now.... How often is this updated? It seems that every time someone logs on, it goes up immediately.. but every time someone logs off, it doesn't register for quite a long time.

US$ Spent in the Last 24hours.... This is monumentally false! First off, are they counting JUST US dollars? or are they also counting linden$??? This should read Money that has exchanged hands in the last 24 hours.


I don't mean to sound like I'm calling out LL on this... but a majority of the residents have always been confused with these numbers.... it also seems that LL utilizes these numbers for promotion strategies, but not specifically stating what each statistic means.

I agree on alot of this, as for why wouldn't LL want to put up unique IP's, I believe it's because unique IP's are closer to the 200,000 mark in 60 days. If even that.

who gives a s**t

1. why *exactly* do the figures make any difference to how you would play or use sl ?
2. does anyone really think they mean anything at all ?
3. why do you go to the front page of the site to use sl ?


i really honstly think all this discussion on stats is a waste of time and effort - who cares ?

i give a s**t, obviously, because I posted my damn message.
They don't mean anything at all. THATS THE POINT!!!! I AM ASKING FOR MEANING TO THESE STATS!!

Mrlk... troll elsewhere (I've noticed you trolling my threads before too.... and as I told you before, noob, you need to sit quiet and listen) because I promise you everyone else but you will post responses that show they too care that LL should define the stats, and also defines those stats to people that choose to pay LL. We want useful stats on the homepage... that is the point of my post!

"Total Registrations" would be more clear... . I've no doube the figure includes perma-banned players, and accounts that have expired due to long time abandonment.



I can't site a source for it... but I feel very certain that is correct. The number would fluctuate more wildly from week to week, if it were "# of times residents connected to SL" instead.



Because it would be meaningless. A non-trivial percentage of residents would have dynamic IP addresses, making each seem like many.. a smaller percentage may connect from behind NAT'd firewalls making many seem like one... I, personally, connect from several different networks as well, some dynamic, some translated, some static.



Undoubtedly linked to some of the presence problems that we seem to still be having. If I were to guess, there are a pair of redundant servers responsible for tracking connectivity. If a sim goes offline it may not successfully communicate several people just went offline to the connection trackers. They may not discover folks have gone offline until they re-connect again later. (as a resident can only be logged on once at any one time).




That... I have no idea. I *suspect* that they're totalling up the total L$'s spent in-world and converting it to US$ using the current exchange rate. I wouldn't say it's "False" without knowing what it was first though.






Welcome to marketing... two drink minimum.

Seriously though, stats, to me, are only significant if used for trending purposes. Knowing that something is "x" is nice... but is "x" going up? or down? What's making it change? How might those factors affect my plans and goals, and what must I do to adapt? etc etc.

Clarity is good... but relevance is more useful.

Thank you for the valuable thoughts (above). I just wish LL would make something official regarding these numbers and figures.

And as far as marketing 101.... I think any company that misleads with false claims is asking for a huge consequence. Some of the companies coming into SL are making these brazen false "we are the first" claims and are instantly losing favor amongst 99% of SL residents.

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the point is what are the stats useful for ?

as far as the graudian and channel 4 goes - they dont need any help from anyone to be fuckwits

And once again Mrlk brings a thread to a grinding halt

wtf

It's true, all of it is nothing but a bunch of mumbo jumbo. They have all these figures and stats but no one really understands wtf it all means. What good does it do or what good is it to anyone if you don't know it's meaning?

It's all greek to me....or is it latin?

Thank you Llauren... Yes! Whether those stats on the first page are important or not in any way, we need to know what they even mean. To me, it seems that LL is keep these stats vague so press and media will interpret the stats the wrong way.
I don't think RL corporations are going to be too happy when they enter and then realize that 1,000,000 residents really means 1,000,000 signups but only 200,000 are active residents, and 100,000 are ALTs from the same players.... or that when it says 13,000 people are logged on, it is more like 8,000 because that figure doesn't real time update.

Exactly, it has to be a marketing ploy. LL puts those numbers and possibly misleading titles up there because they think it will impress potential customers. There really is no reason other that I can think of to display that kind of information on a log-in page.