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Rez vs Drop

Guarionex Teromaximus
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01-18-2010 11:58
Hi, I'm a fairly new Second Life resident, and I have a question. I tried searching the forum, since I'm sure this has been asked before, but couldn't find anything... anyway

I learned the hard way hot to rez, while trying some free beach chair I got and I noticed than when they go back to my inventory, they duplicate. Ok, I got that and have not much of a problem with it.
My actual question is: how different is rezzing from dropping an object? (which I also found out the hard way lol)
I know that the item is removed from my inventory, and if I pick it back, it returns to it, but will it also go back to my inventory after a while? (I know that temporary rez differs from place to place too) Would anyone be able to just pick it and I'll lose it?
I'll appreciate any help any of you could offer to this poor n00b :)
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01-18-2010 12:04
Rezzing would be taking an item from your inventory and placing it on the ground/whatever. If the item is copyable then it is rezzing a duplicate. You can either take that duplicate back into your inventory or delete it.

I thought dropping referred to taking an item that is attached and rather than a normal detach, drop it to the ground. Again, if the item is copyable, you will end up with a duplicate on the ground. Nobody else can take the item without you taking some extra steps to allow that to happen.

In either case, if the item is not copyable, then the original goes to the ground and you still can either delete it and not have it in inventory any more or take it back to inventory.

Also in both cases, if the land has auto-return on and you are not a member of the group then any rezzed/dropped items will be automatically returned to you after a set period of time.
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Lissa Fimicoloud
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01-18-2010 12:09
Rez and drop are the same thing.
What you are seeing different is that if an item is no-copy it leaves your inventory when you rez it, but if it is copy then you get a copy when you rez it.

If you rez something and leave it then many things can happen, depending on the place you left it and the owner of that place.
Some are set to auto-return after a period of time.
Some don't allow you to rez at all.
Some leave it there until the landowner decides to get rid of it - either by delete or return. If the landowner is nice they will return.

If the item is not set for sale or for anyone to take, no one else can take it. It will sit there until one of the other things happens. By default, most things are NOT set for others to take.
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01-18-2010 12:17
From: Lissa Fimicoloud
Some leave it there until the landowner decides to get rid of it - either by delete or return. If the landowner is nice they will return.
I thought that if an item was not set to allow group manipulation then even if the landowner selects delete, it really goes back to the owner. At least that is the way it happened a few times I deleted items on my land that I did not own. I think if you set it to allow the group to manipulate it then anyone in the group can delete it and maybe even take it if it is transferable.
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Guarionex Teromaximus
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01-18-2010 12:19
Oh, I see. When I dropped an item, it was something I attached to myself by accident, so I tought it was a different thing from rezzing. So if it's not copyable, it will be removed from my inventory, and it will return to me depending on the landowner/the rez setting on the place, or simply be deleted by the landowner, right?
Thanks for clearing that up for me. :)
Lissa Fimicoloud
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01-18-2010 12:27
From: LittleMe Jewell
I thought that if an item was not set to allow group manipulation then even if the landowner selects delete, it really goes back to the owner. At least that is the way it happened a few times I deleted items on my land that I did not own. I think if you set it to allow the group to manipulate it then anyone in the group can delete it and maybe even take it if it is transferable.


You may be correct - I haven't looked at what conditions allow the landowner to delete rather than return. I play it safe and take my stuff back :).
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01-18-2010 12:30
From: LittleMe Jewell
I thought that if an item was not set to allow group manipulation then even if the landowner selects delete, it really goes back to the owner. At least that is the way it happened a few times I deleted items on my land that I did not own. I think if you set it to allow the group to manipulate it then anyone in the group can delete it and maybe even take it if it is transferable.



if a land owner deletes objects that are not theirs, it returns it to the original owner. The only exception to this is group owned objects that are also no transfer, if returned they poof gone. no one gets them back. otherwise, unless someone has mod rights on your no copy/no mod but transferable items, you get them back unless they pick them up.
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Kitty Barnett
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01-18-2010 12:47
From: LittleMe Jewell
I thought dropping referred to taking an item that is attached and rather than a normal detach, drop it to the ground. Again, if the item is copyable, you will end up with a duplicate on the ground.
If you drop an attachment it will vanish from your inventory even if it is copy.

(And as a techinical aside dropping doesn't create a duplicate: it just places the exact rezzed copy you are wearing onto a parcel)
Lissa Fimicoloud
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01-18-2010 12:52
From: Kitty Barnett
If you drop an attachment it will vanish from your inventory even if it is copy.

(And as a techinical aside dropping doesn't create a duplicate: it just places the exact rezzed copy you are wearing onto a parcel)


Nice to know - was unaware of that difference.
Ponsonby Low
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01-18-2010 13:03
From: Guarionex Teromaximus
So if it's not copyable, it will be removed from my inventory, and it will return to me ...


Note that it will probably return NOT to its original place in your Inventory, but to the Lost and Found folder. (Which is always a good place to look for anything that you don't see in the place you expect in your Inventory.^_^)
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01-18-2010 13:38
From: Kitty Barnett
If you drop an attachment it will vanish from your inventory even if it is copy.

(And as a techinical aside dropping doesn't create a duplicate: it just places the exact rezzed copy you are wearing onto a parcel)

Yes. The drop pie menu option should be deleted. Too many things have been lost forever because of that apparently defective code thread.
Guarionex Teromaximus
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01-18-2010 18:12
From: Ponsonby Low
Note that it will probably return NOT to its original place in your Inventory, but to the Lost and Found folder. (Which is always a good place to look for anything that you don't see in the place you expect in your Inventory.^_^)


Oh, I did noticed that. But thanks for the reminder. =)