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Whispering Hush
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Join date: 20 Mar 2007
Posts: 277
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06-13-2007 12:35
Since yesterday, any deletion of prims is not working as expected.
The prims (or complete objects) are losing all ownership information, but the sims are not releasing them from parcels. They either become phantom and have visible textures, or become invisible, and remain solid. The only way to get rid of them is to restart the region. On the mainland you can achieve this by use of unstable objects, on islands, the estate tools can be used. Let's hope the lindens get a fix for this soon. (edit) go here and vote. |
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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06-13-2007 12:36
I was hoping the downtime and the maintenance would have rectified this, I mean haven't we all just had sim restarts. Alas it's still a problem and it's a big big problem too.
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Checho Masukami
UnRez it or use a hammer
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 191
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06-13-2007 12:41
Yesterday I was building in Tawa, in my land, and the "deleted but still there" problem afected leaving a lot of prims with no info. The only thing you can do is move or resize the prims to keep them out of the working area waiting a sim restart.
You can not delete those prims by any mean, you can not take them, you can not create a llDie script and so so... Undestructable super prims! _____________________
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Alicia Sautereau
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Join date: 20 Feb 2007
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06-13-2007 12:51
add to it that taking items back to inventory doesn`t take them...
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Ciaran Laval
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Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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06-13-2007 12:53
add to it that taking items back to inventory doesn`t take them... If I click on an item a second time after trying to take it, take isn't an option. Item has no owner and can't be modified but does have a group set to it. |
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Alicia Sautereau
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06-13-2007 12:54
If I click on an item a second time after trying to take it, take isn't an option. Item has no owner and can't be modified but does have a group set to it. yep same + can`t delete any prim now as they all turn into ghosts grrr |
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Matthew Dowd
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Join date: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 1,046
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06-13-2007 13:05
I've upped the report on this in jira from critical to blocker as the occurence of this seems to have rocketted! See https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-242
And please vote - we need to push this up so that LL take notice that this is not a minor or rare bug, but something that needs fixing now! (although I said that two weeks ago when it first started happening after the 1.16 upgrade) |
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Dalarian Dyrssen
OC Building Disorder
Join date: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 38
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06-13-2007 13:17
I also hoped this problem would vanish with todays downtime.
Actually I am not amused at all since I lost a condiserable amount of work, when the bug first occured to me yesterday. |
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Ciaran Laval
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Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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06-13-2007 13:21
I've upped the report on this in jira from critical to blocker as the occurence of this seems to have rocketted! See https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-242 And please vote - we need to push this up so that LL take notice that this is not a minor or rare bug, but something that needs fixing now! (although I said that two weeks ago when it first started happening after the 1.16 upgrade) This isn't a bug, this is a gamebreaker. It's an essential need. |
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Alicia Sautereau
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06-13-2007 13:23
I've upped the report on this in jira from critical to blocker as the occurence of this seems to have rocketted! See https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-242 And please vote - we need to push this up so that LL take notice that this is not a minor or rare bug, but something that needs fixing now! (although I said that two weeks ago when it first started happening after the 1.16 upgrade) agreed but as much as i`d love to give my vote on it, it`s borked aswell and can`t login(not suprised) |
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Urah Pahute
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Join date: 29 Oct 2006
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06-13-2007 13:26
Log in from the main page Alicia and then go to the issue that you want to vote on.
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Matthew Dowd
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Join date: 30 Jan 2007
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06-13-2007 13:27
This isn't a bug, this is a gamebreaker. It's an essential need. Which is why I have bumped it from "critical" to "blocker"! |
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Alicia Sautereau
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06-13-2007 13:29
Log in from the main page Alicia and then go to the issue that you want to vote on. doesn`t work either, keep going around in circles with the login screen... but here`s a figure of my test, 203 ghosts out of an 1170 prim object not to mention a rollback ticket... managed to login and vote after hitting it with a hammer a couple of times^^ |
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Ciaran Laval
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Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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06-13-2007 13:29
Which is why I have bumped it from "critical" to "blocker"!  I'm not familiar with the terminology on the JIRA. However yes it is a "blocker". |
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Sy Beck
Owner of Group ???
Join date: 9 Feb 2007
Posts: 202
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06-13-2007 13:33
The same happened to me but I found if I moved the prim on to neighbouring land, with a short autoreturn on, that cleared it. They are not there anymore and there is nothing in my lost and found folder. Cheeky I know, but I get on well enough with my neighbour to be able to do this.
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Urah Pahute
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06-13-2007 13:40
What does "blocker" mean though?
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poopmaster Oh
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Join date: 9 Mar 2007
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06-13-2007 14:18
you can buy a machine to restart you sim so you can get rid of your wierd objects
http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=140160 anyone ever used one? does it work? _____________________
InSL u find every kind of no-life retard you could possibly imagine as well as a few even Tim Burton couldnt imagine u find 12yr-olds claiming to be 40 men claiming 2 be women, women claiming 2 make sense and every1 claiming 2 have ideas that are actually worth a damn if only someone would just listen to their unique innovative and exceptionally important idea
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Alicia Sautereau
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06-13-2007 14:23
you can buy a machine to restart you sim so you can get rid of your wierd objects http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=140160 anyone ever used one? does it work? pointless as u can restart the region from the estate tools |
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poopmaster Oh
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Join date: 9 Mar 2007
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06-13-2007 14:38
so anyuser who owns land on a mainland sim can restart the sim whenever they want?
c00l _____________________
InSL u find every kind of no-life retard you could possibly imagine as well as a few even Tim Burton couldnt imagine u find 12yr-olds claiming to be 40 men claiming 2 be women, women claiming 2 make sense and every1 claiming 2 have ideas that are actually worth a damn if only someone would just listen to their unique innovative and exceptionally important idea
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Haliwa Aabye
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Join date: 3 Mar 2007
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0_0 ,0_0, 0_0
06-13-2007 14:41
0_0 Still waiting, aurgh Been trying get in 5 hours, and still now cant Login =(
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Alicia Sautereau
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06-13-2007 14:42
so anyuser who owns land on a mainland sim can restart the sim whenever they want? c00l no, only island owners and managers can restart a region mainland u have to pray to LL to do it |
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Kittie Munro
Registered User
Join date: 28 May 2007
Posts: 29
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06-13-2007 14:46
I'ts broke and I think I maybe broke it
 Had this problem with ghost prims last night and didn't do anything thinking the update would solve it, now it's worse than ever! I voted anyway |
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Tracy Welles
Registered User
Join date: 25 Dec 2006
Posts: 48
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06-13-2007 14:46
I too have witnessed this even on the beta test server and knew it wasn't fixed in the new client. That and my hair is still going up my ass.
WHERE ARE THE FIXES? |
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Alicia Sautereau
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06-13-2007 14:50
WHERE ARE THE FIXES? stuck where everything else gets stuck after an tp^^ |
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Ava Glasgow
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Join date: 27 Jan 2007
Posts: 2,172
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06-13-2007 14:58
I wrote a little blurb about this bug to help people recognize it when they see it. And hopefully add their vote in JIRA.
 --- The ghost prim / 0,0,0 bug uses up your prim allowance with invisible "selected/sat upon" items and causes permanent loss of no-copy items. Items may be visible at the region's 0,0,0 point, and non-phantom items can seem solid (though invisible) at the original location. In most cases a sim restart is required to remove the ghost prims, but there is no way to get no-copy items back. If this has affected you, vote on JIRA to get it fixed: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-242 (The entry title specifies "copy" items, but this entry now applies to "no-copy" items too.) |
