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Vance Winger
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07-28-2007 22:52
Has anyone else had their Gor books blocked where you can no longer read them? Its very frustrating and the creator has no idea why thy can no longer be read.
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Ensign Barkley
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07-28-2007 22:57
Has anyone else had their Gor books blocked where you can no longer read them? Its very frustrating and the creator has no idea why thy can no longer be read. I would guess Copyright Issue's, I'm sure Norman would be pissed at the distribution on the amount his books have been put out there, hell an self-respecting Author would give a squat for the least. _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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07-29-2007 06:37
Its not anything fancy like Copyright infringement.
They were just constructed long enough ago they were broken by some upgrade. As I understand it, you have to drag the chapters individually from the notecards to you inventory. You could search the net and get the files there off Second Life - same place the notecard maker likely got them. Of course the SL and internet versions violate the copyright unless you actually purchase the books from an authorized source. So it would not really be supporting the author to do these things. Then again - if the books were not restricted by booksellers it would be easy to just buy them in the Book Store. Ironic since there are books with far more graphic sex or violence for sale in the majority of commerical book stores. |
Reitsuki Kojima
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07-29-2007 06:45
The bigger question is, why would you want to read them? The writing is... awful. I don't care about the subject matter. I tried to give one a fair chance, and it felt like driving nails into my brain.
That said, copyright infringement is bad, mmmkay. Wanna read 'em? Go buy 'em. _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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07-29-2007 06:49
The bigger question is, why would you want to read them? The writing is... awful. I don't care about the subject matter. I tried to give one a fair chance, and it felt like driving nails into my brain. That said, copyright infringement is bad, mmmkay. Wanna read 'em? Go buy 'em. LOL - a little bit exagerated. Funny though. They read a like a lot of other pulp from the 60's. You are giving him to much credit if you think he has some style unique to what was a common one at the time he started writting the novels. |
Katier Reitveld
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07-29-2007 07:17
The bigger question is, why would you want to read them? The writing is... awful. I don't care about the subject matter. I tried to give one a fair chance, and it felt like driving nails into my brain. That said, copyright infringement is bad, mmmkay. Wanna read 'em? Go buy 'em. I'm not a great fan of copy infringement however sadly a LOT (if not all) the books are out of print therefore it's actually very hard to find a genuine copy. |
Raudf Fox
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07-29-2007 07:24
I'm not a great fan of copy infringement however sadly a LOT (if not all) the books are out of print therefore it's actually very hard to find a genuine copy. And if you do find one, it tends to have a few pages missing! I love online places that have the classics online for free. It's great, because I enjoy reading a lot and sometimes, I simply can't find a copy or the copy I have is falling apart. At least the authors of these books won't care they're online and for free. They might even scratch their head, "Online? What?" I mean, they've only been dead for a while! _____________________
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Mickey James
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07-29-2007 07:26
Many of them are still in print and can be ordered easily from Amazon or other online bookstores. The ones that are out of print can be found, but not always inexpensively.
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Colette Meiji
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07-29-2007 07:32
It looks like the entire series is availble at Amazon.com
Will cost over $350 - but then 26 books .. That shouldnt be a surprize. IF the cost is the reason for violating the copyright though - well thats another issue, ask the music industry. - I have no idea if you were to buy the whole series it would arrive , etc. Merely that Amazon.com has them for sale. |
Brenda Archer
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07-29-2007 07:36
You can also get them as ebooks at http://www.fictionwise.com/eBooks/JohnNormaneBooks.htm
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Kyrah Abattoir
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07-29-2007 08:10
yeah as much as some SLers worship john norman's work, they don't have the right to infright his copyright.
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Colette Meiji
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07-29-2007 08:12
yeah as much as some SLers worship john norman's work, they don't have the right to infright his copyright. I dont think most SL goreans even read any of those works. And its not becuase they cant get them. ![]() |
Angelique LaFollette
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07-29-2007 10:55
Ok, a few things here,
A: it simply sounds like your Books are broken. If you can open them as objects, you may (If they are mod enabled) be able to transplant the text to a New Book script with little difficulty. B: YES the john Norman Books ARE under a Current Copyright, and copying and distributing them on the net IS an Infringement, and it Appears that Norman Has engaged the services of a legal Representative to Enforce his Copyrights On Line, That is the primary Reason that Most if not All of the gorean Sim libraries have removed the Core books from their Collections. I myself have the complete texts of all 26 Novels, But i No longer share them for the above reason. C: Also acknowledged, the Norman Books ARE Pulp Sci-Fi, and are more or less representative of the genre of that Era, In short, they are Cr*p. To date i don't think anyone, Gorean or Not has claimed otherwise. The thing is, there is a pretty big marked for Cr*p these days. People Watch "Survivor" on TV, or Collect Stallones Rocky, and Rambo Films. The National Enquirer, and Harlequin Romances Still do a Healthy Business and last i heard, there are still Plenty of Country Music stations out there. I Myself collect B drive in Movies, i have thousands of them on DVD and video. People Read Pulp Fiction, Vintage novels (Sing to me the praises of Mickey Spilane or Zane Grey) Just because something is Bad in the technical sense doesn't mean it Isn't Entertaining, or that it lacks the ability to capture the imagination. Some things have qualities that, for some people Transcend their technical limitations. Just because you personally don't Indulge in a particular Guilty Pleasure, That does not indicate it has no value at all. it's Just not your Tastes. Angel. |
Warda Kawabata
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07-29-2007 11:06
Google for "Houseplants of Gor". That one, at least, is public domain. As is "Gay Bejeweled N*z* Bikers of Gor. Both, despite the intentionally awful prose style, are apparently very fair renditions of his writing style.
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Colette Meiji
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07-29-2007 11:18
Google for "Houseplants of Gor". That one, at least, is public domain. As is "Gay Bejeweled N*z* Bikers of Gor. Both, despite the intentionally awful prose style, are apparently very fair renditions of his writing style. there was a great notecard "25 things about SL gor "circulating around a while back .. was really lol funny .. I checked dont have a copy any more. |
Aleister Montgomery
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07-29-2007 11:58
Google for "Houseplants of Gor". That one, at least, is public domain. As is "Gay Bejeweled N*z* Bikers of Gor. Both, despite the intentionally awful prose style, are apparently very fair renditions of his writing style. They really are ![]() [...] I was troubled. It did not seem right to me how I was. It did not seem right to me that I felt as I did. "Dance," I told the slave. As a slave, she must obey, because this is the right way of things, as practiced on Gor. Had we been on Earth, I would not have been able to command her to dance and she would not have had to dance, because Earth is polluted with wrong ideas and perversions, twisted over the centuries of the denial of the true way of things. And so she, undancing, would not have danced, and the frustrations of my castration of my masterhood would have become perverse and I would have been like the weak men of Earth, who are despicable and weak. The slave danced. I watched her dance. She danced. I watched more. And yet there was an emptiness inside me, as though I was unfulfilled. The slave was beautiful, as is the right way of things on Gor, dancing a slave dance that slaves dance. But I was empty, there being something missing in me that I did not have. I pondered this and considered it. [...] _____________________
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White Hyacinth
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07-29-2007 12:08
Notecards embedded in notecards are broken all over SL.
Just drag the chapter you want to read from the main notecard to your inventory and it will open. I have read all of volume one before I decided I did not want to read the other 25. |
Qie Niangao
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07-29-2007 12:42
I have read all of volume one before I decided I did not want to read the other 25. ![]() |