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AV is desperate for a new name

Georgie Greggan
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Join date: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 12
05-03-2007 20:32
I have incurred abuse through harrassment and blackmail. The abuse has been reported. In fact I hesitate to post here because of my vulnerability. I have had no feedback from the abuse report. Intense role play is at the root of my problem. My Second Life is broken. There seems to be only one way to rescue my situation. I need my account renamed. Can this be done? I suspect not.

A consequent question is: I know that I can create a new account and hence begin a new Second Life. This would see the closure of the first account. The question: Can I transfer my current assets to the new account? I would want to move my entire Inventory. And I would also want to transfer my Linden dollars. Perhaps, I must cash out my L$ and pay them bit by bit to the new account? I am hoping this last difficulty can be avoided.
Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
05-03-2007 20:57
no you have to create a new character sorry never heard of renaming well unless your name is a bad one that needs to be changed then you have it changed without notice.

Also not heard of inventory being moved if its transferable you can move it yourself the rest has to stay with the original money of course you can also move
Ann Launay
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
05-03-2007 21:07
You don't need to 'cash out' your Lindens in any way, just look up the new account's profile while logged into the old one and click the 'Pay' button. You can also transfer any transferable items via the profile page, but you'll lose everything else. Sorry you're having these problems. :(
Georgie Greggan
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Join date: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 12
05-03-2007 21:22
Okay, this is bad news.

(1) I suppose the major problem is that most of my expensive purchased items in the original inventory will not be transferable and will therefore be lost. Very bad news.

(2) In-game, can the first account name gift (pay) all Linden dollars assets to the second account name? Oops Anne. I posted before seeing your reply. Thanks for the info.

(3) There is also the problem of the prepaid 12 months Premium account (11 months remaing to run) on the first account. I would have to close this I guess? Or does it carry over to the second account? Meaning I would have two Premium AVs sharing the original Premium input. Back-tracking the first account to free status would cause the second account to receive all the Premium benefits. Am I right?
Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
05-03-2007 21:26
can't you just create a free one (basic) use him for your rp and just use the expensive inventory out of the old guy?

It seems like the easiest solution. Even if I there was a name changing process in most places it takes ages and it would be faster and easier to just create an alt and make it into your main while using the paid one for other stuff. The only person that's gonna know its an alt is you and Linden Labs. YOu can just use him for rp and keep the other guy for everything else. Heck use them both for RP maybe he isn't so messed up as you think he is?

I have been called ebil I still exist. I figure that those who are busy being mean like that just ignore em. Anyhow yes the no transfer items will have to remain on the main guy. Money just pay to the new guy. the rest just send it via the profile there is a box to send items to you can even give your alt the ability to use the items of the paid guy there is a check box on the friends list. Just make your two guys friends and he should be able to handle most of the no transfer stuff if you place them on the ground. (err i think? now that i think about it there is a button to allow to edit stuff )
Georgie Greggan
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Join date: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 12
05-03-2007 22:07
Well, two things.

First, the main AV is so vulnerable that I have stopped playing Second Life. There is no way I can use the first character except for, say, as storage (having a very full inventory with many items not be needed by the alt initially). As I said, LL appears to have done nothing about the reported abuse so it is hard to use this character in any useful capacity. One of the crimes against me was the dissemination of personal information to a large number of people. Illegal, but that is what has occurred.

So an "Alt" would be my main character and the original eventually forgotten. Therefore, all financial assets would become the property of the alt. I would require any L$ I purchased to go directly to the alt account. Not possible? Maybe there would have to be an intermediate step requiring the original main character to pay the alt every time I bought L$s?

I have heard of a method of transferring large quantities of items from one character to another in one step. Create a box on the ground and cause it to become a container. Transfer many inventory items to the box then give the box to the Alt. Correct?
Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
05-03-2007 22:13
yes just plop it all in.

I'm not sure but ifyou make it your friend you might be able to grab some of the other stuff. I can't remember what that box does but the prim stuff someone made me their friend to help them fix an item and it seemed to be no transfer. Unfortunately it didn't work on the script which is what she was needing help with for some reason she didn't want to just trade it lol (can't remember why). Anyhow if its not a script you might be able to pick up transferable items.

The premium I think you can't transfer the money to a new account if you cancel the premium it dies but that part I am pretty sure you can look it up on the knowledge base.


Be careful how much you put in a box however because if its thousands of items your going to have a huge lag issue put 100 in max and most people recommend to stay below 40

hope that helps hehe
Georgie Greggan
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Join date: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 12
05-03-2007 22:34
Yes Wilhelm, it does help. And thanks Ann. I won't know for certain until I do this myself.

I think of the main account as the one where I learned SL, made huge mistakes, with several having ruined SL for me. If I could have it so, Georgie Greggan would disappear completely, but that seems unlikely.

Perhaps, I need to create a new SL registration for a new main account and avatar. I have another email address which I could use for the registration, if needed. Having a new beginning with SL means I can get what I can from Georgie and then close that account permanently.

A fresh start is desperately needed

Make sense?
Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
05-03-2007 22:48
If you are actually being harrassed to the point you say you are - Linden Labs might be able to help you.

The *can* change you name - however its extremely rare. You might be able to convince them.

However i think your going to have to give them some deatiled explaination of why lifes unlivable in SL.

Also LL might be able to resolve the situation short of renaming you.

I dont see how a RP community is ruining your life though - just mute them all grab yoru stuff and go find something else to do.
Georgie Greggan
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Join date: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 12
05-03-2007 23:20
Understood Colette. But if I am now banned from joining desirable groups that have blackballed me....? You see my point? My enjoyment is less than the whole. The crime against me was the revealing of my role play's deception and duplicity. The role play has been what made me my enemies due to the truth being revealed. So LL would say it was my fault, a predicament of my own making. So live with it.

I shall read up on muting.

I was hoping that some in SL would just think I had stopped playing SL. But if they still see my name in searches....? What I am saying is that my character needs to change and I don't want friends, nice people, hurt. I just want them to realise and to question why Georgie had disappeared. I do not want them to discover that I have started to ignore them. It's complicated.

There are welcome areas I haunt. I still want to haunt them with a new beginning. Why is Georgie now ......, we thought Georgie was ..... No I can't go into that. A new name is very definitely necessary.

Such has been the duplicity and deception in my role play that Georgie MUST disappear and be totally replaced with a new AV.

To get a new name, I make an alt, or become a completely new member.

I was wondering about the best route to that solution. It is now clear to me through your responses that I will not be granted a name change. So I will try the alt path with its complications. Whatever. An alt is probably less complicated with regard to transferring assets, than a new membership. Maybe, Georgie can rise again in say 12 months when people have forgotten. No, I want Georgie killed. I don't want Georgie to be searchable.
Anjaleka Virgo
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Join date: 28 Jun 2004
Posts: 90
05-03-2007 23:30
This was confusing to muddle though, I admit. I think you are verbalizing via this thread about what you are wanting to do, perhaps trying to convince yourself to do it.

It sounds like you are a bit mixed up on one thing though. An Alt IS a new account. The only connection to your old account is the fact that Linden Labs will know that you have more than one account. No friends, no land marks, no inventory, nothing will transfer to your new account.

It's not as difficult or complex as you seem to be making it. As the old saying goes, don't make a mountain out of a molehill :) If things are truly intolerable and you want a fresh start, just make a fresh start! Make your new account, friend your old one. Start transferring everything you can transfer and scrap the rest.

There you go...new life :)
good luck!

Anjaleka
Suzy Hazlehurst
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Join date: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 323
05-04-2007 00:04
From: Georgie Greggan
Such has been the duplicity and deception in my role play that Georgie MUST disappear and be totally replaced with a new AV.


I am sorry your Second Life got so fucked up. I do wonder though: those people who are harassing you about 'duplicity', do they know the difference between fantasy and reality? I mean, role play is not your real life and your real identity, if it were, you wouldn't have to play a role. It sounds like those people have a problem with the fact that in real life, you are not the same person as the character you roleplay. But, isn't that the point of roleplay? What difference does it make what and who you are in real life, in roleplay only the character you play exists.

Every time I come across this sort of thing, I am genuinely amazed. Last time it was a female escort who was terribly upset when someone said he thought she was a guy in real life. I say: so what? Sure a lot of us play an avie of the opposite gender (or even a different species!), escorts included. I myself recently created an alt with a name conveniently appropriate for both guys and girls to be able to switch. But what matters is the fantasy in-game, not whether it is a pale faced geek or some beauty goddess sitting at the computer. (for those wondering: I am neither)
Wilhelm Neumann
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Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
05-04-2007 00:38
From: Georgie Greggan
Yes Wilhelm, it does help. And thanks Ann. I won't know for certain until I do this myself.

I think of the main account as the one where I learned SL, made huge mistakes, with several having ruined SL for me. If I could have it so, Georgie Greggan would disappear completely, but that seems unlikely.

Perhaps, I need to create a new SL registration for a new main account and avatar. I have another email address which I could use for the registration, if needed. Having a new beginning with SL means I can get what I can from Georgie and then close that account permanently.

A fresh start is desperately needed

Make sense?


Create the alt from your game browser by choosing new account. No one is going to know this alt is yours at all its just like creating a new character only Linden labs will know because they need to know. All the account info is seperate and trying to bypass the system will leave you with an alt that is unpaid for and you will then have to figure out how to make it a paid for alt 9.95 basic or go straight to premium.
Georgie Greggan
Registered User
Join date: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 12
05-04-2007 04:14
The problem with that option, using the new account button on the viewer before logging in, is that clicking that button is amazingly useless.

I am running Second Life viewer 1.15.0.(2)

Clicking that :New Account ..." button produces the pop-up:

"You must have an account to connect to Second life.
Go to www.secondlife.com to create a new account? [OK] [Cancel]"

Click [OK] to have the browser open at the new account creation page called Second Life Registration: Basic Details.

This action does exactly the same thing as creating a brand new account on the web site. It is clear that the alt concept has been taken from us.

Unfortunately, creating a new log-in is alluding me simply because of a stuff up with my birthdate with my actual birthdate not acceptable. Note: for this purpose, I am using a new yahoo mail account. So my entire problem is now in the hands of Second Life Support. Perhaps, the server related to birthdays has taken a hissy-fit.

It's not been a good day for me today. Thanks to all who replied.
Broken Xeno
~Fething Alt~
Join date: 9 Mar 2007
Posts: 632
05-04-2007 05:07
k, but I am not sure exactly what your issue is.

I am an alt. I created an account about a year and four or so months ago, and I left it behind due to personal reasons.

So when you make a new account, you go to the site, go through all the same steps, and then when it asks, say that you owned a previous account. You'll have to pay the ten bucks or whatever, but that's fine, NO ONE will be able to know who you used to be, unless you tell them. It's as simple as that.

Now to the ugly side of things. I had a LOT of things on my old account. And I lost all of those things. Things like clothing, for the most part, shoes, eyes sometimes, and some accessories will transfer, but most of your stuff will not. Hair, most skins, any weapons, most toys, will just not transfer. You have to write it off as a loss, because there's nothing you can do to get them back. I didn't even consider LL changing my old account's name. That's a very rare thing, and I personally have never heard of it actually happening. Show me someone that's had it done.

Anyway, that's your only option if you want to get back into these roleplaying groups. Create a new account entirely. Also, be careful they don't recognize you, it's easy to get caught up in typing exactly the same way as before. I've had a few close calls m'self. Actually the person I wanted to know the least knows more than anyone else. It sucks. But I don't care at this point.

SL is a big game. There are tons of roleplaying places to go to. Maybe what you should be thinking about is finding a new place to call home.
Skye McArdle
Resident Dragon
Join date: 26 May 2006
Posts: 132
05-04-2007 06:40
From: Georgie Greggan
The problem with that option, using the new account button on the viewer before logging in, is that clicking that button is amazingly useless.

I am running Second Life viewer 1.15.0.(2)

Clicking that :New Account ..." button produces the pop-up:

"You must have an account to connect to Second life.
Go to www.secondlife.com to create a new account? [OK] [Cancel]"

Click [OK] to have the browser open at the new account creation page called Second Life Registration: Basic Details.

This action does exactly the same thing as creating a brand new account on the web site. It is clear that the alt concept has been taken from us.



I guess I'm just as confused as everyone else, as that is *exactly* what is supposed to happen. An alt *is* a brand new account. I'm really unsure what else you were expecting when you say that "the alt concept has been taken from us", as an alt is simply an alternate account, created in precisely the same way any other account is created. If the registration is giving you errors, that is one thing, but the part of your post I quoted I see no problem with.
Gillian Waldman
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Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 697
05-04-2007 07:05
Ditto - :confused:

An alt is a new account...exactly what was supposed to happen, happened.

We all have alts for whatever reason. Your new alt will now become your new main. Just pay your new alt all your Lindens, transfer what inventory is transferable and begin again.
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Suzy Hazlehurst
Offensive Broad
Join date: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 323
05-04-2007 07:56
From: Broken Xeno
So when you make a new account, you go to the site, go through all the same steps, and then when it asks, say that you owned a previous account.


Making alts is broken. That question isn't asked anymore, and if you use the same mail account you get a message that LL limits the amount of alts (you even get that with the first, even if you've been around for a while, even if you are Premium).

Use a different mail account, it should work. For all intents and purposes, an alt is a completely new account.