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Broccoli Curry
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06-05-2007 14:01
http://www.stratics.com/content/portals/sl/index.php#newsitem1181077168,35217,“We the pixels of Second Life, in order to form a more perfect Grid, establish justice, ensure freedom from lag, provide for the common defense against griefers, promote the general stipend, and secure the blessings of Linden to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for Second Life.” Broccoli Curry Stratics Second Life News Team
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Ketter McAllister
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06-05-2007 14:07
From: Broccoli Curry “We the pixels of Second Life, in order to form a more perfect Grid, establish justice, ensure freedom from lag, provide for the common defense against griefers, promote the general stipend, and secure the blessings of Linden to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for Second Life.” You have nothing to lose but your lag, comrade. You have a Second World to win.
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Sling Trebuchet
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06-05-2007 15:15
From the stratics article: "Sound a bit far fetched? Not necessarily. At today’s “Office Hour” in-world, Robin Linden floated the idea of a player-written constitution to replace the current community standards, although stopping short of a full player-run Government." Contrast that with the Daniel Linden video, recorded at a Stanford Humanities Lab workshop. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2642394922604088000in which Daniel disses the idea (or certainly the idea of LL being involved). His wish would be to reduce "The Big Six" down to a "Three Rules" , which would be concerned with aspects that make SL - Unusable - Unenjoyable - Unwelcoming and Threatening Whatever about the impression of him formed by the blog post, I'm for backing Daniel all the way on boiling it down to those Three Rules. KISS! Anyone who wants to think/post about the state and future of SL should personally watch ALL of that 1hour+ video. Watch it more than once. His blog posting was a very confusing mess. The video probably gives a much better picture of what is really going on. I'm not aware of any other material that gives a depth of insight into what LL are thinking. The production standard of the video is total cr*p. The environment *might* indicate that what went on was less a PR exercise and more a fairly open academic discussion.
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SqueezeOne Pow
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06-05-2007 15:24
Yeah I listened to the video (I'm at work and had to look at other things besides nerds and old college students or whatever) and it was pretty insightful. I wish LL did more things like this with LEGITIMATE info being put out instead of the vague and the fluffy we usually get these days. The whole "Broadly Offensive" thing makes a bit more sense to me now...although I don't necessarily agree with what they're doing, but they're from the Bay so you can't expect TOO much logic and reason! The whole "be as vague as possible so we don't have people going right up to the edge and spitting over" mindframe is not a good way to go. It might be easier for them so they don't have to actively police things (which is good) but I'd rather know where the boundries are beforehand than find out I crossed one after I realize I've been banned or otherwise punished! I also like the idea of muted people just dissappearing! It would almost be like a parallel universe! 
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06-05-2007 15:53
From: SqueezeOne Pow I also like the idea of muted people just dissappearing! It would almost be like a parallel universe!  Shunning.. which would be great and has been asked for since SL came into being! No longer would we NEED a Linden if we could just say, "I don't like you, so you don't exist for me!"
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Sling Trebuchet
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06-05-2007 15:54
From: SqueezeOne Pow Yeah I listened to the video (I'm at work and had to look at other things besides nerds and old college students or whatever) and it was pretty insightful. I wish LL did more things like this with LEGITIMATE info being put out instead of the vague and the fluffy we usually get these days. The whole "Broadly Offensive" thing makes a bit more sense to me now...although I don't necessarily agree with what they're doing, but they're from the Bay so you can't expect TOO much logic and reason! The whole "be as vague as possible so we don't have people going right up to the edge and spitting over" mindframe is not a good way to go. It might be easier for them so they don't have to actively police things (which is good) but I'd rather know where the boundries are beforehand than find out I crossed one after I realize I've been banned or otherwise punished! I also like the idea of muted people just dissappearing! It would almost be like a parallel universe!  I wouldn't be worried about not knowing where the black and white boundaries are *provided* that wandering over the fuzzy line resulted in a polite tap on the shoulder rather that summary nuking - and especially nuking without recourse to appeal. The problem with starting to put *everything* in writing is that people will nit-pick over the words and ignore the spirit. There is a problem with people assuming that anything not expressly forbidden is allowed, and that simply isn't a sane approach. I think that a Three Rules embodying basic principles, *if* hand in hand with total transparency of AR handling, would be preferable to a barrack-room lawyer fest. It appears from the video that the Disclosure bans are on the way out. If so then maybe that would enable more transparency. "muted people just dissappearing" Symmetrical NoDraw sounds like fun, but apparently all the programmers HATE the idea, and there would be a whole bunch of issues to do with collisions, etc. LOL! He raised the idea of griefers gaming the Symmetrical NoDraw to try and achieve a completely empty sim or SL. We don't see them, but they don't see us.  He didn't explicitly mention the option of a gang of 'invisible' griefers lagging a sim. 
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