B& from lost furest and others, anybody know why?

Not sure where to post this, so i apologize in advance if its the wrong place.

I tried to visit lost furest about a week ago, just barely touched down before getting sent home by 'badmans ejector'. I've been getting nailed by similar objects on different parcels, but the lost furest one suprises me since it was my first visit!!

I'm guessing my name found its way onto a shared banlist of some kind.. could anyone who would know such things tell me what gives, and possibly de-list me?

I'm not a griefer >_>

You can try slbanlink.com

Checked, i'm not listed on any of those.

Bump, i'm really hoping someone from LF management reads this, or better yet, if YOU read this and know who is in charge, please send me their name.

The owner of the group that the sim is set to is kyecoon Vox. I'd start there.

Officers in the group are:
Twinky Replacement
Alliez Mysterio
Tony Beckett (possibly a secondary owner)

Hope this helps!

Tsukasa, if you really want to know why you've been banned from Lost Furest and other sims, I think you really need to get your brain in gear and quit playing coy. Let's take a look at your sig over on the SL-Forums: why golly gosh, it's a banner advert for /b/tards. 'Free your inner hero'..... Look, you've hitched your colours to the /b/tards. Well, you can't be such a baby as to not know that they're not exactly flavour-of-the-month. Which would lead me to the conclusion that this and your thread on SL Forums are trolls. And, quite honestly, no amount of Donald Rumsfeld style 'Heavens-to-Betsying' is likely to make anyone think otherwise.

In SL as in RL, one chooses one's company and are known by the company one keeps. You've thrown your lot in with the /b/tards so I think you should expect blanket bannings all over the grid.

Guilt by association is a difficult issue and does tend to be treated in much the same way in sl as in fl.

However my own view would tend towards extending a modest amount of personal trust providing the individual concerned has not personally and directly griefed anyone.

I do appreciate that there could be quite complex issues involved, but I think Desmond Shang of Caledon sums it up nicely when he suggests that in some conflict cases it can be best to sleep on it and review it in the light of a new day.

No disrespect intended to anyone

Regards

John

John, guilt-by-association is one of those ugly open secrets. It happens in RL and SL even amongst the most open-minded of people. And given the past history of certain groups in SL along with the rise of griefer-mania panic since the introduction of unverified sign-ups, is it any surprise that people all over the grid are closing their doors to any percieved threat?

For all I know Tsukasa might be a straight-up decent guy. Unfortunately his association with the /b/tard group colours perceptions and often leads to snap judgements. I've seen the same happen to W-Hat members: being banned from a sim simply on the grounds of their group membership. Arguably unfair, but a sim owner can do as they please without having to justify their actions to anyone.

HI, Kyecoon does rent Sables dAlliez from us. The owner of this Sim is Tony Beckett. We are co-owners of all d'Alliez Sims.

Did this happen in Sables d'alliez or Lostfurest dAlliez? Please IM me in world and I will be happy to help U get to the reason for your ban. I personally do not like anyone using ejectors for no reason. Maybe U went onto restricted land there, we will try to find out for U as soon as U contact me in world. U do not show on any ban list there, it might be U are going into places they have closed to the general public

Alliez

I wasn't sure of the setup, but wanted to give him some names to start out with, thanks for coming here to clarify who he can speak with!

Are U a /b/tard? If so that might be the answer to your question right there. U must realize if a Sim is griefed by various groups it is indeed their right to ban members of that group. To have a sim running well for all concerned is the objective, it is not ppl being banned for no reason, it is ppl being banned because of all the problems they bring to a sim. And as co owner of the sim I will back them totally

Eh? No. Check my profile.

Alazarin,

I believe she meant the OP

Christ, never expected such a nasty response.



I was a member of a different /b/ group for a while (never really did anything though, i just kinda hit join when i saw a /b/ group), quit for the same reason, didn't know the people, didn't really care. Maybe they were troublemakers?

Anyhow, I'm of the opinion that shared banlists are nothing but trouble. One idiot goes and causes trouble (name withheld, a few people were ejected a few weeks back for being jerks) and the whole group gets banhammered. Completely unfair.

Anyways, check the group charter (/b/anditos), thats not what the group's about, and there is no raiding or any other stupidity going on.





You need to turn your troll detector WAY down, sir. I'm asking a valid question. Namely, i havent done anything, the groups i'm in are clean, so, WTF?

I can only conclude from your condescending tone and attitude that YOUR posts were indeed trolls.

Now that we have that out of the way:

I think it was Lostfurest D'aillez, i was teleporting from an advertisement in classifieds. I remember that this object was in the middle of the sim. I tried going from a sim to the west and walking in manually, got hit again when i got anywhere near the middle of the sim. I'll check again today.

Thanks again for the help.

still its a problem between lost furest and you and nobody else's business so please solve your case in private

Didn't you read the OP or the friggin' TOPIC? Lost furest isnt the only place. I'm on a shared banlist, and i want to know why.

*edit

And the only reason i'm asking out here is because i wasnt sure who the mgmt. was to contact. Thats done, thanks, thead's over, last one to leave shut off the lights on your way out.

It is not a problem between LostFurest and him in the least. We do not even know yet which sim it is Also, he might want to contact the chiefsof the sim for some help in this. And, I totally agree, this should have been taken care of in private.
Alliez

Well, i am a furry in SL, and im only about 1 week old (heh, not even ) And yesterday, i
got a flame from someone just forbeing a furry, I checked their profile, andofcourse, they were in several /b/ groups, INCLUDING /b/anditos, so, maybe you should watch what groups you join, because it has become a rule of thumb for me that, if your in a group with /b/ in it, your gonna probably be a jackass. I know people say it doesnt hurt, but we all know, it really does. Im sorry that your on all of these banlists, but Isuggest leaving ALL /b/ groups, and talking to the owners of the sim's you are banned from.

*chokes on a strawberry soda* AL a griefer? HAHA thats a good one...

still you don't have to post publicly if someone ban yo from somewhere, you can be banned from any places for no reasons and appeal, bringing the public opinion is just a way to stir the pot

Don't put "B" and "Strawberry" in the same post..
(has another clock crew flashback and twitches on the floor)

Someone still didn't bother reading my last post, i see.

The only reason i'm talking about this here is because i had no idea who the mgmt of lost furest was, had no way to find out seeing as how i couldn't even get into the sim to pull up an owner on the land, etc!

Ok?

Fine. I'm out of all the groups. Your lazy ban policies leave me no other option than to quit a group that has a few of my good friends in it because others who I have no control over like to cause problems. I hope this solves the problem.

Requesting a thread lock from the mods here if possible >_>