Voice Chat DJ?

Would some unscrupulous someone using voice chat be able to potentially use it to host music in clubs?

Unscrupulous?

Well, in the RIAA's opinion at least.... The big to-do with internet radio is that the government wants broadcasters to pay a higher royalty fee than what they have in the past. Many DJs use servers to broadcast their streams, and fall under this new royalty-fee law.

Also, many DJs have to at least own a copy of the music they are playing so as to prove that it is licensed to them and not pirated music.

However, I'm wondering if voice chat could potentially be used to circumvent these restrictions. I'm not saying I ever would, but it's a legal question that has to be explored before voice chat goes live and LL faces yet another lawsuit.

Technically it's of course possible. but because with the voice system, volume tails off with distance, and anywhere that voice is enabled, any listener could grief the DJ.

So, possible, but not practical.

Many DJ's also just download music and play it without paying for it.

I dont see how it would be any different than running a Teamspeak server and playing tunes thru that... legally I mean. With voice being spatial, i cant imagine it would be very effective though.

From my experiance of voice in SL .. it would sound rubbish .. as it stands now it's ok for voice comms as is a telephones bandwith .. HiFi music on the other hand YMMV.

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you can DJ with our with out the license
1,) a max of 40 ppl is like a house party.
2.)fair use law
is how most look at it, if they are broadcasting on a web radio show as well then the station has to pay the licensing fees not the DJ.
and running a privite stream making no money its not pirating, so if I run my shout cast on my private relay server its fair use. fact of the matter at this time the RIAA (who are the real pirates, they do not help the artist ask bare naked ladies, Hootie, Prince, and countless others.) are after down loaders not sharing, see come out to "my club" that is my home, its like coming to my summer house party I play it all is that being unscrupulous?

as well as doing this I am a musician belonging to asacap and bmi I believe the RIAA and the majors need to go. they are crooks! have I recieved the monies due me for the radio play? nope, or the 50 juke boxes the cd is in ? nope they are just crooks

and voice is not good enough bandwidth.
but wait for the karaoke I own 50,000 songs in karaoke and we are gona hear some bad bad singers soon

and in this vain your saying if I set my lands url to some internet radio I am circumventing the RIAA??

please do some research on the RIAA I see they have brain washed you with the propaganda that music is evil if they dont make $ from it .

In a nutshell yes .. but the quality would most likely drive people away.

An unscrupulous person could also use the chat window to spread copyright protected texts. Pasting the newest Stephen King novel into the chat for example, sentence by sentence, easily copied from an eBook. Pretty much everything can be used to infringe on copyrights, even a ballpen and a sheet of paper.

Its probably just a matter of time before the RIAA runs out of 13 year olds to sue and starts coming after dj's in SL.

Whoa, whoa.... If I don't send up smoke, no one comes looking for my fire, understand? Not brainwashing; covering my own a**.

I'm very interested in the "houseparty - fair use" idea you mention, and will do some follow-up research on that.

The reason for my question is that I'm very interested in DJing at one of my favorite clubs, but I'm limited on resources. I don't have any experience with streams, don't (well, didn't until this thread) know the limitations of voice, and don't have my own server. And yes, this DOES make me an unscrupulous person as defined in my first post. Sue me.

I want to know what my options are before I approach the club owner and say something stupid. "Hey, I have these cool songs I got from various places, I want to be a DJ in your club, so...um...how do I do it?"

I appreciate the advice I've gotten in here so far, though. Thank you all, and keep the info coming.

Just an interesting side note: The RIAA, who is against you getting anything for "free" has moved their web servers to a Linux Server. As mentioned in the following articles, while they push for DRM on everything they touch, most Linux Distros come WITHOUT it.

Seems Free is Ok for them and NOT for you.

http://www.digitaltippingpoint.com/

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.riaa.com

http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/17/1910247

Off-topic, but it's only slightly ironic to oppose the RIAA for DRM, when SL comes with a DRM of its own through the permissions system and everyone is perfectly happy with it.

You don't get fair use for your purchased items on SL (LL won't implement inventory backup because it could possibly be used to steal content; anything no transfer you buy is specifically limited to one avie, not one RLindividual; etc) either so why is the DRM in SL "good" but DRM at the request of the RIAA "evil"?

In SL it's generally acceptable to use unlicensed textures found on the web, it's generally acceptable to use pirated software for content creation, it's generally acceptable to DJ without the proper license using pirated music, but god help anyone that pirates an SL created item because then they're just despicable.

Nah, the irony of the RIAA's move is- they sued people for not buying a "licence" for the music, yet turn around & ditch a Server OS to avoid the licencing fee and use one that doesnt require such a thing, as in basically "free".

And yes- Inventory backup would be nice, but I see the issues with it. BUT- there ARE ways it could be implemented to avoid those issues. Maybe something like NT Permissions with a Security key of some sort for Decryption?

eben, i think the discussion about legality here side-steps the "practicality" of using voice for this.

i've use the voice client and the sound trails off rather quickly as you move away from the speaker. it goes to zero before you are out of text chat range. you'd have to be in a pretty small club to be heard by everyone on the dance floor.

additionally, if voice is activated in the club (and the club owners i know are planning on having is disabled in theirs for just this reason), you'll have to compete with all the other avies "talking" over you and your music.

it just doesn't sound practical to me.

Friend of mine tried this a couple three weeks ago. It works, but the quality is pathetic, plus the other mentioned problems.