Question about Islands and Adult content, no speculation please

Does anyone have any factual knowledge on EXACTLY what island owners will have to do about adult content ? Will we be forced to designate the entire island Adult , or can we subdivide the island into parcels and just designate a parcel as Adult ?

Please, no speculation in this thread. I need a factual answer, preferably from a Linden who knows the answer. Yes, I'm writing the Lindens right now.

This is the "Resident Answers" forum. If you wanted an answer directly from LL you are in the wrong place.

If you own a sim and want to have mature content in the sim you need to designate it as Mature. It is up to the owner of the sim to enforce any additional zoning. So if the owner doesn't want mature content below the 300m level then that is up to them to enforce.

This can't be answered by anyone other than a Linden that knows what the future plan is ... and non of them seem to know as much as we do about the whole affair .

i can tell you to go and read the blog's again ..both of them , From what i can see it will be done by parcel and not by an entire sim .

So the case is clear ... speculation is all you will get untill LL announce the full workings of this plan .

for what its worth ...and i read .... it will be done via parcel .. so even though you don't want me to answer ..i will

yes you can devide your sim into 2 sections or more

fwiw, I just sent an email to [EMAIL=concierge@lindenlab.com]Concierge[/EMAIL] for them to answer this question.

All parcels have an "Adult Content" flag that is separate from the Island's "Mature/PG" designation. This is an already-existing feature, and is almost certainly what will be used in this instance.

Daniel Linden was just talking about this at Robins office. He said that this hasn't been tested on Private Islands yet but that he expects it will work the same way mainland sims do.

No residents know any factual answers. Because the age verification hasn't actually happened yet, all any of us know is what's written on LL's blog.

According to the blog post:
In a previous blog post:
And in that same previous blog post:
In a nutshell:

* LL requires that new residents declare they are 18 or over at the time of registration

* At the time of registration LL does nothing to VERIFY the information (I guess this is why the system "works well"

* Landowners are required to tag their own land as Adult Content

* If an underage person manages to make it onto your Adult Content parcel, for whatever reason, it's your fault

* This is all part of LL's desire to protect you as a customer (as you're "morally" responsible for what happens on the land you pay for from the company that was unwilling to have some sort of verification system in place, while the Terms of Service make it clear that excluding a failure preventing logins in for more than 24-hours LL is not responsible or liable for anything).

*/rolls his eyes and sighs/*

Okay... this is a "brother's keeper" argument in which a faceless corporation with a mediocre product, terrible support, and absolutely no clue as to who their customers are is _making_ you (a customer) a member of their "morality police." (Yes, "making," as failure to comply can result in Abuse Reporting and possible land consfication/account termination).

This is also "squid pro quo" (a one-way transaction). In exchange for tagging your land as Adult Content you get what in return? Does customer service improve? Do you get a discount? Will the grid become more stable? Do the squids at LL improve their verification process during registration?

LL's current bad media mentions over sexually-oriented ageplay, gambling, etc., are the result of their own bad decision to make registration open without verification. Should you be responsible for LL's bad decision? Are you, as a customer, obligated to help LL clean up its own mess?

In a word: No.

But you'll still have to tag your land.

Thanks Sindy. I certainly hope this is true. It will make life much easier for island owners if this is the case.

I'm sort of wondering what the issue is here. If everyone on SL is required to be over 18, and if LL is going to disallow access of underage or unverified avatars to adult or mature parcels, then why don't we ALL switch our parcels to adult? The underage avatar would have nowhere to go and would leave SL.

Re: privacy, etc "I don't want someone knowing how old I am, it's none of their business, etc"... it's easy to claim this, but pretty much anyone with the possible exception of convicted felons can go down to City Court and look up your birthday. It's also probably posted somewhere on the trillions of internet pages out there....

LL is doing nothing to "disallow" registrations from underaged persons. Registrations will remain "open" with the same challenge of "Are you 18 or over?"
[Issue: Maybe this would be a good point to ask for a credit card]

Verification would take place _after_ registration, in the event the person wishes to "verify" their account.
[Issue: Hey, another good time to ask for a credit card]

Verifications will be done by a 3rd party company.
[Issue: LL has two modes: "understaffed" and "understaffed." Maybe if registrations weren't "open" there'd be enough people internally to deal with the problem. Maybe if registrations had never been "open" to begin with we wouldn't be having this problem.]

According to the Terms of Service LL can't be held responsible if anything goes wrong with that 3rd party company: [Issue: When was the last time you had to bring along a third party to verify your age? When was the last time you had to bring along a third party, with a spotty track record, that someone else picked, to verify your age?]

All landowners with adult content will have to tag their parcels as Adult Content.
[Issue: Land that fails to be properly tagged as Adult Content can be Abuse Reported. However, with the introduction of "Estate Level Governance" private sim owners can handle Abuse Reports generated within their estates. What prevents them from not tagging their land and then intercepting any Abuse Reports concerning their untagged Adult Content parcels?]

Hi Steve,

The terms "adult" and "mature" are being used interchangably in a lot of
places. I am assuming here that your inquiry is as to how the new age
verification process will be implemented on private islands. As you
know, it will be done on a parcel level on the mainland. As Daniel says
in his blog post: Age and identity verification will replace ‘Payment
Information’ in-world. You can currently set these at both the parcel
and region-wide level. I believe that this is how the new system will
be implemented.

Please watch the blog for further postings explaining how this will work
as we get nearer to this becoming a reality.

Harmony Linden

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