MS XNA a rip of SL?
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Ina Centaur
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12-26-2006 11:39
SL's slogan goes like: "Your world. Your imagination" But, Microsoft has recently released a game-development platform "for the people" called XNA Game Studio Express. Its slogan: "Your world. Your game" http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/dec06/12-11XNAGSECreatorsPR.mspxSeems eerily like a rip off SL. 
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Krazzora Zaftig
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12-26-2006 11:44
SL = allows you to buy stuff in world with lindens that you can convert from USD. Buy clothes, avatars, vehicles, even land. MSN (Via Xbox) = Buy cool stuff like new secret powers, moves, trailers, etc for your games. They've already taken SL as an example. Even Sony and Nintendo admit they watch SL with interest. I can see it now though. Cannot create avatar..please enter 234234234 digit product ID code. I'm sorry that is avatar 3.0...please pay 200 USD for avatar 4.0...we're doomed!
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Ina Centaur
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12-26-2006 12:36
lol, Kraz but, isn't it interesting that MS is attempting to make xBox games as easy to make as a game set in SL?
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Krazzora Zaftig
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12-26-2006 12:38
um wait...was that a slap at SL or Microsoft....I'm really torn on that one. >_< Intersting idea: SL + Microsoft = ....
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Alazarin Mondrian
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12-26-2006 12:41
Noooooooooooooo, don't go there, Krazz 
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Krazzora Zaftig
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12-26-2006 12:47
That would be scary. SL Vista $600 Techncial support as always through seller of software. Seller of software provides no technical support for software unless OEM. OEM provides only if bought with thier systems. Reports of bugs and flaws woud be met by Phillip Linden with court papers in hand.  Phillip can I buy the rights now. >_<
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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12-26-2006 13:29
I'm waiting to see what this turns out to be: http://www.visual3d.net/From: someone Build Worlds with the Ease of Web Design™ Visual3D.NET enables interactive world applications to be produced with unprecedented level of simplicity, productivity, and flexibility through an intuitive standard approach similar to developing web applications with ASP.NET and Visual Studio. A Simplified Approach to Productivity™ Construct The Environment from Objects Prototype Actors with Behaviors for Interactivity Script Logic with C#, Visual Basic, Java, and Python Extend The World, Engine, and Toolset with Visual Studio Deploy On PC and Xbox 360 with XNA Framework Expand With End-User Modding and Scenario Creation Continue Using Tailored Tools and Reusable Content for the Next Worlds... It won't be an interactive virtual world like SL, but it might be interesting.
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Kiek Shinji
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12-26-2006 13:36
XNA is an extension of visual studio, I've coded with it
The best it does is 1)abstract away directX and the camera code so you can focus on writing a game instead of getting DirectX to work 2) alow people with to much time on their hands to make games for the Xbox 360
It's a farcry from an online Massive Multiplayer platform like SL It's not comparable
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Doubledown Tandino
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12-26-2006 13:53
When has microsoft ever NOT copied from something else? Name one original concept of microsoft...
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Krazzora Zaftig
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12-26-2006 14:04
From: Doubledown Tandino When has microsoft ever NOT copied from something else? Name one original concept of microsoft... the perfect no fault contract? EDIT: meaning they are never to blame for problems....only you. AKA the devil's contract.
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Peekay Semyorka
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12-26-2006 14:19
From: Doubledown Tandino Name one original concept of microsoft... Clippit the annoying Office assistant?  Seriously, though, Microsoft's research division (MSR) employes more than 700 people with a multi-billion dollar annual budget. Lots of stuff happening there, though most of them "under the covers". -peekay
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Krazzora Zaftig
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12-26-2006 14:26
From: Peekay Semyorka Clippit the annoying Office assistant? Seriously, though, Microsoft's research division (MSR) employes more than 700 people with a multi-billion dollar annual budget. Lots of stuff happening there, though most of them "under the covers". -peekay hey Clippit is also...so was the robot reject friend of his...what I made them...oh wait. Yeah they are cool and leave them out of this! 
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Ordinal Malaprop
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12-26-2006 14:29
XBox Live has opened up previously-unheard opportunities for teenagers to call random people "fags" over the internet - by voice, not just in text form. Don't tell me that's not an original development.
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Sara Sullivan
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original idea of MS
12-26-2006 14:36
From: Doubledown Tandino When has microsoft ever NOT copied from something else? Name one original concept of microsoft... The Blue screen of death???? LOl Sorry Dad
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Krazzora Zaftig
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12-26-2006 14:39
oh oh I know.... OPEN SOURCE!
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Dragon Keen
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12-26-2006 15:40
From: Doubledown Tandino When has microsoft ever NOT copied from something else? Name one original concept of microsoft... massive security vulnerabilities? na even that they probably weren't first, but sure are the best at it
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Mike Westerburg
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12-26-2006 17:10
From: Krazzora Zaftig um wait...was that a slap at SL or Microsoft....I'm really torn on that one. >_< Intersting idea: SL + Microsoft = .... SL+Microsoft = unknown, but I do imagine a few things that would happen : Though I am loath to admit it, Microsoft's games are top notch, from their RTS games like Age of Empires to their simulation games such as MS Flight Simulator and even great Multi-Player games such as HALO. Microsoft may be lax in their OS department but when it comes to games, they will rival ID, Maxis and the others. We would get VoIP, better physics, more language options, true .NET integration, a better rendering engine, the list goes on. All we have to look at is how Microsoft has done to the gaming industry, many people thought the XBox was gonna flop, I did as well, we were wrong. The XBox had problems at first, but they fixed them and look at how much they have done, in less time than the Playstation series has been around, Microsoft has gained a lot of ground in the console gaming market with a solid product. Sad to say as well, I thought after the Millenium Edition flop, Microsoft was going to get it's rear kicked by Apple and the Linux markets, they recovered rather well with Windows XP, even better than I had expected. Only time will tell, especially if SL goes open source.
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Soen Eber
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12-26-2006 18:29
SL + Microsoft = body "attachments" carrying viruses...
I can just see the headlines now.
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Wren Murasaki
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12-26-2006 20:31
XNA is just MS's offering for game development. XNA fits in a catagory of game engines, which there are many. Game development kits are not new, they have been around almost as long as the PC.
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Strife Onizuka
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12-26-2006 20:32
I'm going to lock this, it doesn't fit in this forum and it doesn't fit in any other SL forum. It would be best suited for a General Forum.
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