Automatic Unwanted Teleporting

I was exploring a river with my sailboat and I hit this spot where every three seconds said "radar, something something in zone <unnamed>, you will now be teleported home" in a blue box. Then on screen would say teleporting unavailible and I had to hit enter to make it go away and get control of where I was going. About 10 cycles of enter-left arrow later I am still not turned around then poof! I was teleported home. To me this is nothing more then an equivelent to a n00b with his orbit gun but worse because my shield usually blocks them. This is also a form of greifing I think. Anyway is there someway I can avoid being teleported away like this?

it is someone private home security it sounds like. and it means someone wants to keep their property private. .. like a real life alarm system .. but this one can actually throw unwanted people out.

it's not griefing. people are allowed to keep their property private, you know?

as for the teleporting unavailable.. that sounds like some SL tp issue un-related to the private home security... at least it sounds that way to me.

but there is nothing there no house or anything it is just water.

someone's plot, if large enough, could own a lot of water.. i'm not sure exactly where this is happening to you though, so i'm not positive what is happening. But.. if it's not Linden owned water, it could very well be someone's private space. Most of the water in SL is owned by residents.. other people like you.. rather than "open free space for all to enjoy". though a lot of people who own water seem to allow others to sail by .. fortunately.

(someone smarter is bound to come answer you soon, btw! they can likely help better than me >.<

Yes Maja, you've found that wonderful blend of a security device doing its job ... and teleporting not!!

If you go to the View menu tab in Preferences and switch on border lines, you should see the perimeters of peoples properties.

Some folk allow access to water on their properties but those who don't aren't griefing .. they simply want privacy on their own property.

There is literally nothing there, could this device be overlapping from the next sim, because there is a giant house there? This is almost like dropping a few mines in the Elbe because you dont like boats going by your house.

No Maja, it's probably what's already been said here. For some reason the owner doesn't want ppl there, the fact that there's nothing there obviously doesn't matter to him/her.

Mandy C

The scripting function llTeleportAgentHome will only work if the security device is on land owned by the owner of the device. In other words, if you put the security device on linden water, or your neighbors land, it might be able to annoy people but it cannot initiate the teleport-home function. That's assuming of course that SL is working properly and the scripting functions are doing what they're supposed to.

I've seen some bizzare circumstances where security devices mistakenly attack people in adjacent sims where a) the devices technically aren't supposed to be able to scan, and b) the victem is not on land owned by the device's owner. It's like your calculator telling you that 2+2 = 9832 but only when you are near a sim border on a tuesday under a waning moon. It 'should' be impossible and it breaks rules of how LSL is supposed to work. But it can happen.

Of course, I'm not saying that's what's happening here, only that it is possible, in some circumstances, for security devices to attack people that they shouldn't, nowhere near where the device is located.

-Atashi

If it really just said "you will now be teleported home" straight away, then I believe you can abuse report this, since security scripts are required to give you reasonable time to exit the area first; even then, they should normally just parcel eject you rather than teleporting you home. Also, while landowners do have the right to keep others off their land if they want to, they don't have the right to "steal" your vehicle by locking it on their land.

I actually purchased a security system which gives no warning and has the option to either send the person off parcel or tp them home. I don't use it because it's obnoxious, but it's a fairly well known 'brand.'

I don't think that makes any difference - there are, unfortunately, many scripts on sale in world which are ARable whenever used on anyone without consent (no-push pushers being the most popular and obvious example).

this is actually considered a borderline form of greifing, and if you AR it, under certain circumstances, Lindens will come out to disable it.

What's the point in having an expansive virtual world, if you're not allowed to even walk, drive, float, or fly by something?

Ban lines are bad enough, but teleporting people a hundred sims away from their vehicle.. for the crime of crossing an invisible barrier... No, sorry, you can't convince me that this isn't greifing.

I AR every one of these I come across that teleport me away, pushing off the parcel is fine, but if I get teleported without my permission, it gets ARed. Then I bring my alt by and AR it again.

Maybe I misunderstood what you originally said...I wasn't defending the option to tp someone home, just mentioning that it does exist since you'd said that they normally parcel eject.

The home is probably above that parcel. A skybox. Though usually a security orb set to protect a skybox does not reach to the ground.

It may also be camoflaged on the ground so it looks like terrain.

Or they may leave nothing rezzed in-world for people to prowl through with camera tricks and the like when not home, but they leave security in place so when they do come home and want to rez their private castle, they don't have to first evict squatters.

Or last but not least, it may be someone's "prim count parcel", and they are just sick and tired of someone leaving prim junk there, even if auto-return eventually cleans it up.

I guess client ban controls aren't obnoxious enough for some people.

Every time I got tossed for the crime of taking a boat down a Linden strait, I came back with a 512m viewdistance and disabled camera constraints to figure out why. In over two years I haven't found a reason justified enough. I keep expecting to find top secret government conspiracy documents. I'm starting to get disillusioned. Maybe they're locked in a safe behind one of the child pornography pictures...

Sounds like the landowners killer radar was exceeding the property line. Thats why it couldnt teleport you out of the area when it first saw you. It wasnt until you actually crossed over to its legal boundries that it was able to make good on its threat. Teleporting you out of there once you got into prohibited space was contractually within its rights, but hassling you in public waters before you even got there was a breach of peace violation. If I got harrassed in public water by some poorely set up killer orb, Id write em up.
Stay in the middle of the channel ( if you can figure out how to judge distances, SL can get real weird concerning visual perspectives). Some privacy enthusiasts dont differentiate between Goldilocks using their sex bed, and the pleasure boater just trying to make it down the river and thus dont tune their ban machines accordingly. Not much you can do except try to avoid em. I used to own a large chunk of waterfront, but parceled the lot off in such a way I could activate my banlines on the main house but it wouldnt effect the waterway. Easy to do, but many dont bother for whatever reason.

Those tp home things should not be able, in any way, to affect avatars beyond the boundary of their own land. If they do then that sucks, and I would abuse report the owner.

I share land that is mostly water on the northern atoll continent. We don't have banlines or anything though. It's pretty clear that the Linden waterways are tricky (all diagonal banline minefields) so it's no big deal for someone to sail over the edge of "our" land while enjoying the waterways.

Other people are more obviously spiteful, or driven to it. Or I'm a commie or something.

If it was a private island (a single island no adjacent island), then there is a very good reason for it to be TP home not eject. When you eject there is no way to control what direction the person is ejected in. They can be and often are ejected upwards. Potentially ABOVE the security so when they come down they hit security and get ejected again. Endless loop that results in either a crash or the person having to relog to a different location. TP home avoids the issue.

Well I ARed it because Jingogae is owned by govenor linden and this persons radar and copybot defeater spam(every second !quit) makes the north quarter unusable. But almost week has gone by I IMed this person before ARing to but nothing came of that as well.

I am with Verkin I wanted to see what sorta tippy top secret stuff this person was up to. For example drugs, secret society meeting halls in their basement, or panda bear smuggling. but alas nothing that wasnt scrounged up out of Yadni Junkyard reject bin.