From: GrimWolf Dumont
I was not aware that I needed consent from linden labs to conduct research. I understand that they are trying to look out for their residents. However after reviewing the post it does not say that I need permission to do a study, it was regarding whether or not linden labs endorsed the study.
How are "consent" and "endorsement" even remotely the same thing? All the policy says is you need their permission to study their world. Endorsement would mean they'd be providing active support. Consent just means approval. Big difference.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
Unfortunately it is also their way of trying to censor the information gathered by researchers.
That in itself is an extremely biased statement on your part, you must realize.
Anyway, let me offer a bit of history here on how the policy came about, and maybe you'll better understand why it's in place. As I started in SL almost 3 years ago as a part of class researching online worlds, and as that class's publications helped to spark some of the controversy that led to the policy having been written, I believe I'm qualified to lend you some insight here.
My class was one of the first of its kind at the time, and Linden Lab, obviously excited about it, gave us substantial free land for the semester, lots of friendly attention, and all the support they could muster. However, the class instructors didn't quite return the favor, as assignments often required the publication of chat logs and other private information on the class website.
That was obviously a huge breach of privacy for all concerned, not to mention a clear violation of SL's community standards. People who didn't want to feel like they were being spied on eventually began to shun us, and complaints began to circulate. These people were well within their rights to be upset, of course, but none of us realized that at the time. There was a clear need for LL to step in and say "here's what you can do and what you can't." Ever since then, LL has rightly wanted to make sure that researchers knowingly and deliberately agree to abide by community standards BEFORE beginning their research.
This policy is absolutely reasonable, and exists for everyone's benefit, including yours. It's got nothing to do with Linden Lab's image, or about censoring any information. People have a fundamental right to protect their own privacy, and Linden Lab has a responsibility to ensure that all of us are able to do that. It's that simple.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
The procedure must remain unbiased and any interference from linden lab would disrupt the validity of the research.
Sure, but why are you so convinced they'll interfere? Again, it seems the only bias shown so far is from you.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
In a perfect world their only concern would be the safety of the residents, but the reality of it is they are “trying to cover their own asses.”
According to your (biased) assumption, not any facts. Show me the evidence that they're trying somehow to sweeten your findings towards their own interest, and maybe I'll believe you. Until then, there's not reason to assume that that's what's going on.
Again, they have an obligation to make sure that we as their customers are able to protect our own privacy. In order to do that, they have to be aware of who is doing what research for what purpose, so that they can make sure the rest of us are properly informed.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
"If we feel you have a valid project, we will alert the community to your proposal."
If I were to include Linden Labs in this process is would disrupt the study’s integrity as unbiased.
How? All they've said is they will alert the public to your presence, just as you have already done yourself. What possible difference could it make to your results whether we read about it in a post authored by you or by one of the Lindens? Either way, it would say the same thing.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
The bottom line is that Linden Labs wants to control what information is obtained about them in order to protect their business name.
And you know this how? Again, you're assuming. I hope that that's not the kind of attitude you normally apply to your research efforts. If so, it's doubtful you'll ever get truly unbiased results, as your own psyche will inevitably curb the outcome with self fulfilling prophesy.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
Any researcher will tell you when conducting s sociological study that involves a business organization, that there is a risk of censorship by the company and that is why it was not considered to let them know about the study.
So you'd rather beg forgiveness than ask permission, huh? Not very ethical.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
However I was also unaware that they had such a policy. I will have to confer with my colleges as to whether or not they feel that censorship by Linden Labs is something that we are willing to risk. If this breach of Linden Lab’s desires is found offensive to the community then I apologize for not researching Linden lab’s polices before starting the study.
Again, who said anything about censorship? All they want to do is understand your intentions so they can give you the green light. Once you've got that, what you do from there is up to you. Just don't break the rules like we did, and you've got nothing to worry about.
If this really is such a big deal to you, something is awfully wrong.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
The freedom of information act also entitles us to do our research without seeking the consent of the company.
Uh, the FOIA applies to the federal government, not private companies. When you signed on to Second Life, you agreed to abide by the Terms of Service and the Community Standards. That's a legal and binding contract between you and Linden Lab. Should you seek to breach your agreement with them, they're absolutely within their rights to kick you out of their private system.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
If every company had a say about what researchers were allowed to find out about then there would be a lot of unfortunate company practices that would have been left undiscovered.
Every company does have a say. Ever heard of trade secrets? They are legally protected, you know. Civil penalties for divulging private information can be quite severe. Private companies, just like individuals, are entitled to privacy. Just because you might want to know something doesn't mean you're automatically allowed to find it out.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
The policy should be more about the resident’s safety than that of company’s reputation.
It is. I have no idea why you keep insisting it's not.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
I however will personally guarantee that the information that we are trying to collect will have nothing to do with any personal information that can give away any valid real life information that may compromise the safety of the participants.
Oh, well when you put it that way, everything you say must be on the level. I mean a personal guarantee from a complete stranger is like money in the bank, right?
Seriously, if everything you're doing is on the up and up, you should have no problem with Linden Lab's desire to verify that before allowing you to proceed. The question is not what do THEY have to hide, it's what do YOU have to hide.
From: GrimWolf Dumont
Keep in mind that this study is being done based on survey results not interviews. Anyone who does not want their input published shouldn’t participate in the study. Those who do participate should know that the information they provide will be included as statistical analysis. It should be left to the individuals who choose to participate to decide if they want their voices heard not linden lab’s choice.
For the umpteenth time, LL has a responsibility to protect us, their customers, from potential abuse. Yes, participation should be up to each individual, but the rules of the system are entirely up to Linden Lab, just as they should be. One of those rules states that before conducting research, you need to tell them you're doing it. Unless you're planning on breaking any other rules by your conduct, then following that one simple rule really shouldn't be a big deal.