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Randy Houston
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12-15-2006 10:03
i'm new member to the game(a paying member also) and cant find anything on how to shoot or aim a weapon. I know some places you can use them unless the land owner shows its allowed. just curious on how to do it. is it also wrong to retailiate against other people who have shot at you or are annoying you. in my opinion there should be a big parcel of land (not the sandbox mode thing) where it could be a warzone and anyone who happens to walk into area can be killed or is this what the sandbox mode pretty much is.
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Banking Laws
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Join date: 14 Jun 2006
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12-15-2006 10:18
i'm new member to the game(a paying member also) and cant find anything on how to shoot or aim a weapon. I know some places you can use them unless the land owner shows its allowed. just curious on how to do it. is it also wrong to retailiate against other people who have shot at you or are annoying you. in my opinion there should be a big parcel of land (not the sandbox mode thing) where it could be a warzone and anyone who happens to walk into area can be killed or is this what the sandbox mode pretty much is. Rausch and Jessie (Think I spelled that right). Major combat sandboxes. _____________________
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Randy Houston
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Join date: 13 Dec 2006
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12-15-2006 10:24
so go to there places to have some fun. where would i go or click when i check the map
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Stephanie Abernathy
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Join date: 8 May 2006
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12-15-2006 12:26
Rausch & Jessie are two of the more popular places.
Jessie is one large urban warfare sim, and many of the better weapon makers have stores there (what better place to try out your new weapons). if they are still open: Red & Blue sims are also good. You join one one or the other in a kind of capture the flag battle. Never been there myself, but i heard it used to be fun. there was a place called Carnage Island which I understand was similar to Jessie, but without all the stores (and you need to wear a damage counter yourself). But i've never been here either and don't know if it still exists. I'm sure others will have a few other suggestions. |
Ceera Murakami
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12-15-2006 13:44
{cynical}
If what you want to do is just play with weapons: 1: Log off from SL. SL is not all about weapons, and you're playing the wrong game. 2: Fire up Unreal Tournament, Quake, Duke Nukem, or some other shoot-everything-that-moves-and-most-of-what-doesn't" game. 3: Have fun. Somewhere else. {/cynical} Seriously, there are EXTREMELY few places in SL where using weapons is acceptable. Jessie, Rausch, and the other sims mentioned above are for those who insist on living in a war zone. Most of us would prefer you stay far, far away from us with your weapons. Using a weapon, ANYWHERE that it is not explicitly welcomed, is a TOS violation that can get you abuse reported. No matter if someone else shot first. Most griefers would LOVE to have you shoot back at them, so they can abuse report you and make you lose your access to SL. They don't care. They have hundreds of free, untracable alts to burn up if the one that just shot you gets banned. _____________________
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Jessica Elytis
Goddess
Join date: 7 Oct 2005
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12-15-2006 14:35
Heya,
First off, welcome to SL. You can't find any information on weapons in the SL information because LL (Linden Lab) does not create any, nor do they run any combat sims. This is not because they are unwelcome, just that this is how SL is. Residents setup and run what they like and how. Each weapon maker in SL decieds how thier weapon(s) are scripted (ie, how they work, aim, etc). Most hand out Notecards with specs and instructions prior to sale. I advise just speaking to those whom you see inworld using combat and weapons in an adult mannor. Griefers and Combatants are easy to distinguish. Griefers are $#%@%$, and Combatants have a respect for those not involved in thier past time. If you travel to any combat sim (Jessie, Rauche, Carnage, etc) stop right where you TP in and read ALL the signs. 1) Just going in without knowledge will usualy jsut get you "killed" before you can do anything and 2) if you break the rules (because you don't know them) there is a good chance you'll just be banned before you even know what's going on. The Weapons Testing Sandbox is a good place to talk to those who love thier weapons. Some may be irritable from working on a non-working script, so if they seem cranky, just move on to the next person. Talk and search. Searching Places for "weapons" will turn up all sorts of vendors for them (showing it's not quite a small a % of people intested in weapons as some may think). Visit a few and see what weapons are there, what they can do (most vendors love to show thier wares or just chat if you are polite in your request). Also, see what they cost. You get what you pay for in this venue. Decent armament will run you 1000L$+. Most come with continuous updates though, so are still worth the price. This is a buyer's decision. As to shooting back: In NO circumstances should you shoot back outside of Damged Enabled lands. These are marked by the Heart icon in your upper toolbar. Even then, common sense rules. With greifers, just sit on an object, take screenshots and Abuse Report the offender. Once you know SL a bit better (as in months down the line and many many many learned rules later) you will know other ways to handle situations. However, Abuse Reporting is still the best method. In closing, ask, listen, learn. Then arm, aim and let the bodies hit the floor. ^.~ ~Jessy _____________________
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Wildefire Walcott
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12-15-2006 16:52
I didn't read every reply word-for-word, but I don't think anyone answered the question about "how to shoot a weapon."
I don't participate in any combat, but I have been given a number of guns and this is how they typically work: 1. You wear them, just like you would a piece of clothing. 2, You enter mouselook mode. (Press M on your keyboard.) This gives you a first-person view (i.e. you don't see your avatar) and makes it so moving the mouse pans your camera around instead of moving a mouse cursor. 3. With the guns that I've seen, you just click your mouse button to fire, and move the mouse to aim your target in the center of the screen. There are many weapons makers in SL, and I bet there are some much more complicated things than I've described here. I don't remember how you get back out of mouselook mode... you probably either have to hit ESC or press M again. _____________________
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Cottonteil Muromachi
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12-15-2006 19:24
{cynical} If what you want to do is just play with weapons: 1: Log off from SL. SL is not all about weapons, and you're playing the wrong game. 2: Fire up Unreal Tournament, Quake, Duke Nukem, or some other shoot-everything-that-moves-and-most-of-what-doesn't" game. 3: Have fun. Somewhere else. {/cynical} and the bla bla, and the bla bla Totally agree here. SL is all about making the next thousandth pair of lacy panties all over again and again to wring the last dollar out from the economy. Any attempt to fire a projectile is totally evil and only serves to lower the income of the 'serious' users of SL. By the way, answering the question here might serve a better purpose than ranting about the misuse of guns. |
Angelique LaFollette
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Join date: 17 Jun 2004
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12-15-2006 19:34
The best answer to that is:
Use weapons RESPONSABLY. -Only use them in designated Combat areas (And try to be Genre Specific, don't use Grenade Launchers in a sim where people combat with Swords). -Only use them against Willing Opponents, Those ALSO playing your game. do NOT shoot First, and ask Questions Later. -Do Not just join in a shooting game until you know ALL the rules, AND the players Just because Guns are being used, Doesn't mean it's a Free-for-all. -If your weapon Fires Prim Projectiles, Make sure they are Temp-On-Rez, meaning they will Vanish after a moment or two, so you Don't end up Filling up the Prim Limit of The lot you are on, Or the adjacent Lot. -Use of some weapons can cause other players to either Crash, or at least force them to Relog. Avoid use of any weapon that has this reputation. Even in a Good natured game, people will consider Crashing them to be Antisocial. -If someone warns you your Projectiles Are landing on thier Property, RESPECT thier Wishes, and either Change your Aim, or use a weapon that will Not deposite things on Other peoples Land. -Owning a weapon in SL is Not Licence to use it (Or for that matter Display it) any where, any time, or on anyone you choose If the property owner says No, It's No. Respect it.. -Under TOS there is NO SUCH THING as Firing in self defence. If you shoot someone, EVEN a Griefer, YOU can be ARed, which may lead to a warning, a suspension, Or an Outright Ban depending upon Circumstances. SL is an Open Venue Role Play Platform, you can Be, or do Anything. For the benefit of those who say Weapons have no Place in SL, Please read above a few more times to let it sink in. "Anything" means Weapons have a Place Also, but that place is NOT defined by the Minority of *ss-Hats who think Shooting up Nightclubs, and Caging newbies is Great Fun. People have a right to make and use Guns, but those rights END abruptly where they begin to step on OTHER peoples rights. Angel. |
Domneth Dingson
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Join date: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 126
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12-15-2006 19:36
Heya, First off, welcome to SL. You can't find any information on weapons in the SL information because LL (Linden Lab) does not create any, nor do they run any combat sims. This is not because they are unwelcome, just that this is how SL is. Residents setup and run what they like and how. Each weapon maker in SL decieds how thier weapon(s) are scripted (ie, how they work, aim, etc). Most hand out Notecards with specs and instructions prior to sale. I advise just speaking to those whom you see inworld using combat and weapons in an adult mannor. Griefers and Combatants are easy to distinguish. Griefers are $#%@%$, and Combatants have a respect for those not involved in thier past time. If you travel to any combat sim (Jessie, Rauche, Carnage, etc) stop right where you TP in and read ALL the signs. 1) Just going in without knowledge will usualy jsut get you "killed" before you can do anything and 2) if you break the rules (because you don't know them) there is a good chance you'll just be banned before you even know what's going on. The Weapons Testing Sandbox is a good place to talk to those who love thier weapons. Some may be irritable from working on a non-working script, so if they seem cranky, just move on to the next person. Talk and search. Searching Places for "weapons" will turn up all sorts of vendors for them (showing it's not quite a small a % of people intested in weapons as some may think). Visit a few and see what weapons are there, what they can do (most vendors love to show thier wares or just chat if you are polite in your request). Also, see what they cost. You get what you pay for in this venue. Decent armament will run you 1000L$+. Most come with continuous updates though, so are still worth the price. This is a buyer's decision. As to shooting back: In NO circumstances should you shoot back outside of Damged Enabled lands. These are marked by the Heart icon in your upper toolbar. Even then, common sense rules. With greifers, just sit on an object, take screenshots and Abuse Report the offender. Once you know SL a bit better (as in months down the line and many many many learned rules later) you will know other ways to handle situations. However, Abuse Reporting is still the best method. In closing, ask, listen, learn. Then arm, aim and let the bodies hit the floor. ^.~ ~Jessy I just wanted to thank you for actually answering the guy's questions. Not everyone is opposed to a little combat now and then. Some people want to sit in a 'dance' club doing nothing in particular outside of AOL chatting, some want to hang out in the basement of their favorite S&M dungeon. Others actually want to test the physics of SL to the max in some SANDBOX COMBAT!! It's wrong to tell him to play something else and completely avoid answering his question. |
Susie Boffin
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12-15-2006 20:24
I think that fellow got his question answered but I need to add that shooting guns in Second Life is not something that most citizens do. This is Second Life and not WoW and all of that stuff.
Most of us take little interest in that sort of activity. _____________________
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Randy Houston
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Join date: 13 Dec 2006
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12-15-2006 20:49
thanks for the input and answering my question. I know from reading up on stuff that you shouldnt use weapons unless the area is designated. do you lose shit from dying or is just an annoyance to die. cause i saw the thing where the people were being banned for weapon use. so its not like i know nothing about it.
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Susie Boffin
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12-15-2006 21:03
thanks for the input and answering my question. I know from reading up on stuff that you shouldnt use weapons unless the area is designated. do you lose shit from dying or is just an annoyance to die. cause i saw the thing where the people were being banned for weapon use. so its not like i know nothing about it. No Randy you don't leave a death pile and you don't lose any possessions. The only thing you might lose is your Second Life account if you aren't careful. _____________________
"If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intent of doing you good, you should run for your life." - Henry David Thoreau
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Wildefire Walcott
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12-15-2006 21:04
do you lose shit from dying or is just an annoyance to die. cause i saw the thing where the people were being banned for weapon use. so its not like i know nothing about it. In combat-enabled zones, when your health drops to zero you are simply automatically ported back to your home location. You don't lose any inventory or money, and there is no XP or leveling here. It seems like some sims don't use Second Life's built-in life meters but instead have folks wear scripted health meters with more options (I often see people walking around with a lot of green or red statistics over their heads.) The people who were banned for weapon use most likely were intentionally annoy folks who were just trying to shop or hang out. (Just because you're in a no-PvP zone doesn't mean your weapons don't work... the only difference is people don't 'die' in no-PvP zones.) _____________________
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Angelique LaFollette
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12-15-2006 21:07
thanks for the input and answering my question. I know from reading up on stuff that you shouldnt use weapons unless the area is designated. do you lose shit from dying or is just an annoyance to die. cause i saw the thing where the people were being banned for weapon use. so its not like i know nothing about it. When you are Killed in a sim enabled for Death (One that shows a Tiny heart, and a Life meter at the top of the screen) you are just Immediately teleported to the Place you designated as Home. You Can, If you choose, TP right back to the Combat. As for areas Not deignated for Combat, There are a Number of weapons that have a Number of effects far beyond just simple death. Far to many to list here. People who are in Non combat sims, and are Just trying to enjoy a quiet day with friends, or Play the game they have Chosen to play Strongly dislike being Hit by these weapons. The most direct examples are Basic Push weapons, and Cages. A Push weapon can throw you backwards anywhere from a Few meters to a Few Hundred meters. There is one that throws you streight up for a Few Hundred Million meters. Cages simply form a Cage around you. Some have Push Included with the Cage. The cage sticks with you in some cases, and impedes movement, so the Only thing you can do is either TP out, or Log Off. All Extremely annoying if you are just enjoying yourself doing a Build, or Dancing in a Club when someone hits you with one. When you described seeing "the thing where the people were being banned for weapon use" This is the sort of use that is Causing the Bans. Frequent repetitive Attacks on Unwilling people using these scripted weapons. Many sims, and Land Plots now have Push Disabled, A tool the Lindens (Bless them) gave us to help curb the actions of Griefers with Guns. Unfortunately, It does nothing for Cages, Or any of the Dozens of Non Push variations of guns that are out there. You've seen here how people react to Guns in SL, Most people have had thier Fill of being Shot at indiscriminately. And you have seen the Prevailing opinions regarding those persons who are Unable to show proper restraint, or Respect. I'm Glad Seem like you don't want to be one of them. By all means Have a Gun or two if you want them, Just remember what people have said here. Angel. |
Ishtara Rothschild
Do not expose to sunlight
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
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12-16-2006 04:00
I just wanted to thank you for actually answering the guy's questions. Not everyone is opposed to a little combat now and then. Some people want to sit in a 'dance' club doing nothing in particular outside of AOL chatting, some want to hang out in the basement of their favorite S&M dungeon. Others actually want to test the physics of SL to the max in some SANDBOX COMBAT!! It's wrong to tell him to play something else and completely avoid answering his question. It's just like RL. A few nerds crawl through the botany with paintball guns, some even feel the irresistible urge to walk into the next supermarket and shoot everyone in sight. But most people just want to socially interact in a peaceful way. Simply answering the question without a few words of warning could have lead to the wrong assumption that SL is an actual combat game instead of a virtual world. |
Domneth Dingson
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12-16-2006 04:06
It's just like RL. A few nerds crawl through the botany with paintball guns, some even feel the irresistible urge to walk into the next supermarket and shoot everyone in sight. But most people just want to socially interact in a peaceful way. Simply answering the question without a few words of warning could have lead to the wrong assumption that SL is an actual combat game instead of a virtual world. There is nothing wrong with that. However, I give you part of my own quote as to why I chose to comment in the first place: Originally Posted by Domneth Dingson blah blah blah It's wrong to tell him to play something else and completely avoid answering his question. |
Yiffy Yaffle
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12-16-2006 05:56
How to shoot a weapon? Heres how. Right click on it in your inventory, and choose the wear otion. next youl wana position it right. Turn it 180 degrees so the barrel is facing you. Now go into mouselook and click.
![]() *Adds* I think it would be funny to see someone attempting to grief that way. WHY ISN'T IT WORKING??!! OUCH!! The bullets are hitting me somehow! It always worked for that other guy... MOMMY!!! I got a owwie! In my face! ;.; ( Yea i know the direction of the barrel has no command over which direction the bullet comes from, i'm just being funny. ![]() _____________________
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Teeny Leviathan
Never started World War 3
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12-16-2006 18:08
Oh, I feel an obscure Family Guy reference coming...
Petey The Pistol: Hi. Are you lonely? Boy: Yes. Petey The Pistol: Me too. Hug me (The boy hugs the gun tightly) Petey The Pistol: If you squeeze me, I make bad people go away. |