SL Goodwill

I am an unaplogetic SL Shpaholic. I don't mind putting a few bucks into the game to fund my habit. Just as in RL, my closet is full of stuff I wear once, sometimes never. In RL I can give it to friends, or donate it. So much of the clothing in SL is no transfer. I understand the creators wish to protect their work, no argument there. But it breaks my heart to delete some nice things that I just no longer want. It's too bad that some way a system can be setup where these items can be donated to a Central Place, where they can be given to New Users, or sold for small profit, with the proceeds going back into the community somehow.

this is a pretty good idea a second life thrift store

wonder if all the collge kids will shop there.

An SL thrift store?

Gods, what are you trying to do to me?

I'm a compulsive thrifter RL,a nd never shop retail. And, I am finding that I'm not a huge shopper in SL... just can't break the habit.

However, I don't think you'd ever be able to get me out of a virtual thrift store. As it is, I'm turning into a yard sale freak.

Why must you conspire to make SL more of a massively addictive time suck than it already is????

</drama queen>

Just trying to Share The Joy.......

Why would you want to attack the creative residents who design such things for sale? They set a price and sell things with the understanding that you won't be able to turn around and resell the items in competition with their business. If it ever becomes possible to do as you suggest, I'd expect (1) fewer people designing items to sell, and (2) higher prices as designers try to maximize their profits before they're competing with their own after-market.

In RL stuff gets damaged, stained, or wears out. In SL everything stays brand-spanking-new.

I don't want to attack them. I just hate throwing away nice stuff that I can't use. That is a waste of their talents to me. I don't want to sell the items. I'd even give them back to the creator for them to resell, I don't care.

You could always hang out in a newbie area for a while and give the stuff away to the newly born. That is what I have done with some of the things I bought and found I never wore. As long is it is transferable it should be fine to do. Please correct me if I am wrong.

What brenda is suggesting is not attacking the designers at all. Why shouldnt you be allowed to sell what you have paid for, shes not talking about a shop that will sell 100 items all the same as anothers designer. What she is suggesting is a place where she can give away what she no longer needs. She is not going to sell it for a higher price, it doesnt even sound like she wants money for them.

How exactly does a designer lose out from that?
THey have already received money for their goods.
If anything they her deleting the items is probably worse for them. I often ask people who designed their clothes so i can check ou tthe designers shop. If they have been deleted no one will wear them and therefore noone can ask who designed that.

whats the difference between brenda's idea and a yard sale?

The designer got paid for the item - its not being copied.

Its a good idea.

The difference is that Brenda is asking to make NO TRANSFER items transferrable.

If it is transferrable, it will be no-copy, and in that case you certainly CAN re-sell it in a yard sale. You sell it once, and then you no longer have it, just like in the real world.

But most clothing designers will make an item no-transfer specificly so they can allow the buyer to make copies for their own use, in multiple outfits, or with modified variations like tinting or resozing parts. It is no-transfer because they allow you to make copies.

But if you could make a copyable, no-trandser item resellable? Congratulations! You just made that product a freebie, and completely erased its commercial value! Why? Because someone can buy it once and sell or give away INFINITE copies of it! And the maker gets NOTHING from all those copies that you sell or give away. Every one you give away is a potential sale you're taking right out of their pocket.

If you bought a no-transfer item and you are certain you no longer want it, then just delete it. Don't try to break the permissions that were put there for a good reason.

search for "flea market" some places sell on comission, some buy low and sell higher (but still lower than new).

lots of my clothes are transfer/ no copy

I dont use the "make outfit" system - back when i started most clothes were transfer.

so i dont see the issue in not copy versions.

alternatively designers could sell their outdated designs in the thrift store for a lower rate long as they owned the vendor ..

It is what I do, but it seems such a waste. Like I said, I don't want to resell the items. I would gladly give them to the original seller to resell if it was possible. Just a thought on a way to maybe help others. Maybe the merchants themselves could come up with a way to recycle stuff.
Perhaps being more selective in what I buy is the answer, less No transfer stuff. But again, I am not looking to undercut anyone's business.

I once attempted to create a thrift store in much the same fashion. Everyone I knew had too many clothes they didn't want but also didn't want to just delete, so I set up a store where everything was either free or very cheap (to pay for the land the store was on, and to help fund a newbie charity I was starting up simultaneously with the thrift store).

A huge problem with this kind of set up is attempting to gather the clothing, determine what is and isn't a freebie, then determine if the clothing is legit and not an illegal copy, then take the clothes, take some kind of picture of them, and package them for sale. This entire process cannot be automated, and because of this, I eventually shut my store down. I was spending way too much time gathering clothing, on top of sitting in the store handling people who were trying to hawk freebies off on me just because they thought making a freebie nocopy made it legit to me. It's a very very big hassle and the first person to automate this system to the point where it's fairly legit AND worthwhile for the community and the people running it, I'll give them a big kiss. SL needs a store like this, but unfortunately can't have one the way things are currently set up.

If the didn't want them given away or resold then they would have made them non transferable, and some stuff already is which is a pain when you buy 2 of something so you can give one to an alt or friend then find you are stuck with 2 copies so just delete a $500 item on the spot so it doesn't clog your inventory.
I have a car I don't want anymore, would suit my alt well, but I'll just have to delete it and go without. Good news is it's copyable so I can have 100 of the same car spread across my property.

Brenda, I relinquish chucking things out myself. I must have a squirrel ancestor.
In SL, though, you're not hurting anybody (but yourself) when you delete something you bought but have since "worn out". The creator can make endless copies of this item, and won't run out of stock unless he decides to pull the product off the market. He doesn't need your copy back to be able to keep selling.

If you ever buy 2 copies of a copiable/no transfer item, notify the seller. Any reputable seller would refund you the 2nd purchase.

Vehicles have to be copy/no transfer otherwise you would lose it all the time with how vehicles work in SL.

My main product is copy/no transfer. If I made it no copy/transferable, then my customers wouldn't be able to get automatic updates.

There are good reasons why some things should be copy/no transfer.