Group - new owners paying deeding

Hope this is the right thread.

We have some new owners joining our group - each owner is required to pay a share of the tier - up to now as a new owner came they brought land with then and deeded it but these new owners will not be bringing land.

How do we go about setting each owner to pay a specific share of the tier.

This isn't an honour system - we want it paid througn Linden so there can be no missunderstandings.

I realise each owner has to be a paying member of SL.

Hi Tarak,

The new owners simply have to add their contribution of tier in the form of sqm via the group menu Land tab. Calculate what sqm of land each should be paying for, have them add their tier to the group then reduce the current owner's tier to suit if that's what you wish to do.

So, land tab on the group menu and they add the sqm they need to contribute.

Edit ~

There is no reason to go through dividing, selling, and deeding the land you have to get the result you want. if it's even share it's easy enough to calculate what sqm each should add as their contribution, if it's not even, simply calculate the percentage of the sqm they should contribute. Even simpler to nominate a plot size they should pay for.

~B

If it has to go through te SL billing system then I think that you would have to carve off some plots from existing land and have the new owners buy it for the group / deed it.
That could be a complete pain. but it would have everybody paying tier for the existing in whatever proportion you wanted.

If you settle for something visible and with some audit trail you could look at a cluster of tiny rental plots and have members pay rent to those, with the incoming rent being divided up in whatever proportion over the members paying tier.

Ah! Paying tier without owning land is something that escaped me up to now.
It does make sense in a group setting now that I think about it.
Tks

There are two options for this:

1 - Do it informally; have the new landowners pay you the tier in L$, or via PayPal, and don't use anything built into Second Life.
2 - Use the group system; have the new landowners take out Premium memberships and pay tier, and then contribute their tier to the group via the Land and L$ window.

Option 2) is the "official" way, but it has the disadvantage that it can be a bad deal because of the bulk discount pattern of tier. As an example if the group owns a sim, that is US$195 tier which would be around US$98 each if divided between two people by method 1), but using method 2) each person has to be in the 32768 tier which is US$125 so you wind up paying the total of US$250.

Option 1) can be cheaper but you have to organise it yourself and you have no protection against the landowners not keeping their word.

Of course, if the contributors don't own any other land, the first 512m they donate costs them nothing in terms of tier AND there's a 10% holding bonus when donating to a group.

So what's the group liability pay option for? Where does that money go?

Pays for classified ads, I believe.

Not classified ads as those are paid by the person who takes them out, but to be listed in the directory.

OK...doesn't affect me, so I wasn't sure.

Group liability also comes into play when *selling* group land. Sold group land will divide the profits between all group members that have a role with the 'ability' of group liability checked.

The best way, imo, to accomplish what you want is using the group tier donation methods outlined above. Recalculate how much tier each member should be paying for after the new additions and have everyone adjust their tier to the new level, the existing owners should be able to lower their contribution, and the new ones increasing their contributions (and upping their tier with the Lindens accordingly).

Please make certain someone checks the group land tab regularly (minimum once per month, but I'd recommend twice monthly or even weekly) to make certain that no one has withdrawn contribution and put the group into a situation where there is not enough contributed tier to cover. I don't know at what point the Lindens note such discrepancies nor what actions they will take when noted, but the warning messages look ominous. Note that I have discovered that I've managed to short my own group holdings and when noticed have had no clue how long it might have been that way so I'm doubtful its a three days to repossession sort of situation, but I'd still check frequently when relying on others to keep the tier levels correct.

Char