i am a regular on the slingo solo curciut and recently **** **** (looks like g0|d ru5h) casinos started a 1k game / 5k pot (90% return to pot) game. well today i played this game, dropped my 1k to play and got the high score, mid 20k's...
i was all expected for the score to get beat but when i returned this afternoon, seem he reset the machine and changed it to a 1L machine with a 1k pot. i asked a few of the people hangign around and it seems the owner ***** ***** (looks like z!g"y h|ck5) just walked up and reset the game within saying anything.
i've had problems with him in the past not paying out prizes but have chalked them up as a loss, but i was told while still there by another player that he has alot of non-paying games and that they get no responces from IMing him as well.
abuse reports have been filed, but i've been told that they are worthless, so what are we to do? just let this indiviual keep raping the grid?
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Athena Sterling
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11-20-2006 16:50
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Angelique LaFollette
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11-20-2006 17:08
i am a regular on the slingo solo curciut and recently **** **** (looks like g0|d ru5h) casinos started a 1k game / 5k pot (90% return to pot) game. well today i played this game, dropped my 1k to play and got the high score, mid 20k's... i was all expected for the score to get beat but when i returned this afternoon, seem he reset the machine and changed it to a 1L machine with a 1k pot. i asked a few of the people hangign around and it seems the owner ***** ***** (looks like z!g"y h|ck5) just walked up and reset the game within saying anything. i've had problems with him in the past not paying out prizes but have chalked them up as a loss, but i was told while still there by another player that he has alot of non-paying games and that they get no responces from IMing him as well. abuse reports have been filed, but i've been told that they are worthless, so what are we to do? just let this indiviual keep raping the grid? You may run into trouble Naming Names on the Forums, But i would say you are doing the Only thing that Can be Done. Even when the Mafia was running Las Vegas, they knew in order to Keep the Gamblers coming they had to keep the games (Relatively) honest. If they didn't, word would spread, and the Money would stop coming. You may not recover the Money you are owed, but then, you Can make it Cost the Casino owner more than he would have lost paying you out in the first place. Angel. |
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
Join date: 3 Mar 2004
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11-20-2006 17:15
I am sorry this has happened to you. As ResMod i can tell you that making it drama on the SL forums will require my services in an unfriendly manner. Of course if you were to post on some third party forum, say Second Citizen your reception would be less likely to have repercussion against you.
As a scripter, I refuse to script gambling equipment for exactly this reason. _____________________
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Venus Vaughan
Registered User
Join date: 3 Dec 2005
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11-20-2006 17:30
Easy ! stop going there and find some place else to go ! end of case
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Athena Sterling
Voided Earthing
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11-20-2006 17:48
As ResMod i can tell you that making it drama on the SL forums will require my services in an unfriendly manner... if you were to post on some third party forum... not tring to start drama, just asking for advice ... and, i'll try there as well. Easy ! stop going there and find some place else to go ! end of case well duh, the previous issues where months ago, and i quit going, its been months, thought manybe things had changed... i wont be back, but this was more or less i'm curious what i should do about my current losses? |
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
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11-20-2006 17:56
Many years ago, my neighbour came out of his house in his bathrobe. "I've been robbed!" he said.
"Robbed? Call the police!" I was concerned - this was right next door! He looked back at me with a puzzled look, then finally said: "The babysitter stole my stash." "Oh. Well. Carry on then, I suppose..." This whole story reminds me of that incident. Failing that, internet fraud is reported this way: http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm Might make for an interesting case though, esp. in regard to the gambling element. _____________________
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
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11-20-2006 18:06
This whole story reminds me of that incident. Failing that, internet fraud is reported this way: http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm Might make for an interesting case though, esp. in regard to the gambling element. Getting the DOJ or the FBI involved in SL would not be fun. _____________________
Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey |
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Livinda Goodliffe
Squeaky Wheel
Join date: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 215
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11-20-2006 20:54
I have a real simple solution to this problem that works for me 100% of the time, guarenteed.
I don't gamble. |
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Jami Sin
i r noob
Join date: 3 Sep 2006
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11-20-2006 21:14
Someone coulda had more points and won also...
Maybe he decided not enough people played it for the return, and changed it to a noob machine... I go there all the time...and lose.  _____________________
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Dr Tardis
Registered User
Join date: 3 Nov 2005
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11-20-2006 22:56
This is a perfect example of why we need a trusted developers group. SafeSL.org isn't just about people writing bots. It's for every developer in SL.
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Athena Sterling
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11-21-2006 09:38
Someone coulda had more points and won also... no no, i got high score at about 10am, returned at 4pm the same day, machine was reset and changed to a 1k machine. i at least thing money should have been paid out, or at least a refund. and he doesn't respond to IM's. |
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Wildefire Walcott
Heartbreaking
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
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11-21-2006 10:18
Post your story at one of the third party forums that allows the naming of names. You'll be doing the community a service, plus it feels good. Also, if you tell the guy that you've posted about him in the forums, he'll likely come and defend himself. I'll start the popcorn.
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Ricky Lucero
Registered User
Join date: 25 Jul 2006
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11-21-2006 13:54
Do what you would do in RL... get some friends with signs and protest the casino.... So much easier in SL.
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Doubledown Tandino
ADULT on the Mainland!
Join date: 9 Mar 2006
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11-21-2006 14:13
Internet gambling is illegal in the US. Plus SL has no gambling regulations. Basically when you gamble online you are playing a game KNOWING you are not going to win.
Person vs Person is the only gambling in SL where you have a chance of winning. I am strongly for getting out-of-SL enforcement in the grid to regulate this. There should be NO machine gambling. _____________________
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