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Using Multiple Radios On Same Land

Eppany Palisades
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11-08-2006 08:42
Hi all --

I'm in the process of renting land usage to other citizens and will have more than one resdient living on the same parcel of land. One building on ground-level and the other in a skybox above. Both have radios and one has a movie/video player.

Is there a way to give them both access to and control of their own individual radios and to isolate their music to their own residences? For instance, how to apartment buildings, housing many residents at one time, handle the use of resident radios?

Thanks in advance for any answers you can provide!
Lewis Nerd
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11-08-2006 08:46
Essentially, you can't. Sorry.

You can split the land at ground level into two plots E| like that and build the house on one, and put the skybox above the other, but that's the only way I know.

Lewis
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Seola Sassoon
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11-08-2006 10:04
I can't remember the name, but there is a radio out there, that doesn't actually use the parcel to send out the sound. It works the same way a gesture does essentially. It's only heard by people close by.

I wish I could be of more help, but that's all I can remember.
Patchouli Woollahra
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11-08-2006 10:21
It probably can't be streaming. Streaming sound and video can only be provided via the parcel-wide settings and LSL functions.

You're probably looking at someone who chopped up the sound into several 10-second pieces and paintstakingly uploaded and arranged the gestures. There are some ingame CD players and pianos that have the same effect going.
Dr Tardis
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11-08-2006 14:15
What Lewis said.

Streaming audio and video is per-parcel only. It would be nice if streaming was possible on an object, in addition to land, but until that happens, your 2-story apartments can't have separate streams on the upper and lower floors.
Eppany Palisades
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Thanks much!
11-08-2006 14:39
Thanks so much for the responses! They truly help. Bummer about not being able to do it. But who knows what future developments will bring.
Doubledown Tandino
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11-08-2006 17:19
this does bring up an interesting concept. If there are vertical lines seperating parcels of land, why can't there be horizontal lines too? I'm not suggesting to start seperating parcels of sky, and have different owners at various points in the clouds.... but if we own the server space, from the ground and straight up, what would be so difficult about having meter points upward where the audio link and video link could be different?
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Angelique LaFollette
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11-08-2006 18:29
I agree with Doubledown, We are allowed to Divide the Sims Verticly into Plots, why not allow Horizontal Divisions as well, That would be a Posative Boon to Highrise developers. The Max Building hight is roughly 800 meters (No Prims above that) Now, If SL allowed something like Sixteen, or Thirty two Verticle Divisions with a Minimum Possible Division hight of Five meters, and a Max of,, well,,maybe 200? Then this would allow for a great Flexability in subdividing land You could divide a Sim into Plots, then rent, or sell levels Above each of those Plots Each with various Sim Tools (Land tools being only Possible in plots that actually have Land).

How hard do you think this would Really be to accomplish? SL is a 3D world, why should Plot divisions remain in 2-D?

Angel.
Doubledown Tandino
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11-08-2006 23:18
Rethinking about this logistically, this would never work....

Think about the lag of 30-40 streams coming in to one plot of land? eek....


Now realizing this, I bet LL could have division lines horizontally upwards.... but they are limiting a parcel of land to 1 audio stream and 1 video stream....


It probably could work like a prim count I guess? technically every 16m plot can have a stream... so maybe if you have a larger plot you could divy up the streams going up.
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Buxton Malaprop
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11-09-2006 05:08
It is possible to address different video URLs to different clients at the same time, through clever scripting. I don't know if it would work to use the same technique but give an audio stream URL instead (so delivering radio through the "video" play button). I know you can do it for static-served MP3s (or at least you could, I've not tried it recently) but I never thought to try it with Shoutcast / Icecast feeds!

(see http://www.lslwiki.com/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=llParcelMediaCommandList and investigate use of setting PARCEL_MEDIA_COMMAND_URL and ..._AGENT at the same time for per-user video)

Update Later: I've tried it and it doesn't work to give an MP3 audio stream URL (which works fine and properly when set as parcel audio) as a Video media address. Not yet tried referencing a playlist file though.
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11-09-2006 05:42
From: Doubledown Tandino
Rethinking about this logistically, this would never work....

Think about the lag of 30-40 streams coming in to one plot of land? eek....


No, lag isn't a problem. Audio does not stream into a parcel of land. The land just contains a re-director for the audio player in the client. Once you connect to the audio, SL can lock up, crash, etc. and you can still have audio. I was at a concert the other night when the sim crashed and I never noticed, because the music kept playing!

And LL has already ruled out vertical divisions, I remember reading at thread or an old feature request about it.

Max
Artillo Fredericks
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11-09-2006 10:21
Another thing to consider is if streams were allowed to play directly through objects and set to a certain radius, you end up with "radio wars" like they often have in There. I do agree however that a boom box type script would be cool, just difficult or impossible to implement and still maintain acceptable levels of privacy and whatnot.

Audio noise and visual noise arent all that different, but at least the way things are now, if you aren't actually inside the plot with the blaring death metal you don't hear it.
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Doubledown Tandino
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11-09-2006 14:44
From: Artillo Fredericks
Another thing to consider is if streams were allowed to play directly through objects and set to a certain radius, you end up with "radio wars" like they often have in There. I do agree however that a boom box type script would be cool, just difficult or impossible to implement and still maintain acceptable levels of privacy and whatnot.

Audio noise and visual noise arent all that different, but at least the way things are now, if you aren't actually inside the plot with the blaring death metal you don't hear it.



They allow this in There.com ..... this is why all the djs and musicians aren't in There anymore, and they're here in SL.... i doubt in SL any land owner would allow someone to plop a prim down with a stream....

however, this idea would work if you owned the land....

going back to the original poster: T1 radio has these inworld ipods which allows you to tune into their broadcast anywhere... it is only a personal thing (meaning, only you can hear it, no one nearby)... however, with this concept, you could give your renters this device so they can tune into whatever they wanted to in their apartment... if they have friends over, then there could be spare ones for guests.
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DolphPun Somme
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11-10-2006 16:48
There is a proposal on the vote-o-thing about this...

https://secondlife.com/vote/vote.php?get_id=1193
Tommy Sikorsky
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Multiple radios
11-14-2006 21:13
What about this radio. If it is deeded to the owner and set to group and copies given to residents - will they each be able to select a station and listen to it?

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