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Rioa Padar
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01-20-2007 04:56
I bought land in Ichoen, someone else bought some there and built a casino with camping chairs. Now i cannot go to my land most of the time, server is full. The casino owner is hogging all the traffic on sim, and leaving no room for other land owners.

What to do?
Zaphod Kotobide
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01-20-2007 05:11
Search or browse through this forum for the multitude of existing threads covering this very issue.
John Horner
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01-20-2007 05:30
From: Rioa Padar
I bought land in Ichoen, someone else bought some there and built a casino with camping chairs. Now i cannot go to my land most of the time, server is full. The casino owner is hogging all the traffic on sim, and leaving no room for other land owners.

What to do?


Sad to relate I am afraid there is very little you can do about this, as there are currently very few hard and fast rules about region/sim resources on the mainland.

There are a few exceptions, for example if your land is surrounded on at least three sides by the casino AND if you are bared from accessing the casino you may have a case to put forward on an abuse report

Another alternative is if you have deep pockets and can buy the casino owner out.

Yet another alternative is time.... most (but not all) casinos fail in Second Life, again complex reasons for that outside the remit of this post. So you could wait and see what happens, quite often in Second Life a problem neighbour disappears

Finally you can sell up and move on, on that point a new option presents itself to you because due to the search improvements on land (in terms of speed and filter) launched by Linden this week, you could sell your land VERY quickly indeed if you put it up for say $L 10 per square meter. Many other land speculators would buy it (possibly) and wait out the problem, especially if the land in question is relatively flat and mature land.

Sorry to be blunt but I have seen this happen before.

Regards

John
Ekeinus London
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01-20-2007 10:47
Hehe ....10L$ / meter ...thats funny .
Or this fourm has 4 month lag.

Any qty of mainland will leap out of your possession at 15$ these days, I would think at that price you would have the lowest priced plot on the grid. Dont take a beating just to move..
Cocoanut Koala
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01-20-2007 11:41
Only problem that's always struck me - wouldn't it be kinda hard for anyone to even come SEE the land to buy it if the sim is always full?

(I'd also kinda feel like I was rooking the next buyer, myself, if he did get in to see it, and bought it, not realizing how the sim is most of the time. I would forewarn any buyer, myself, perhaps with a sign on the land.)

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Ordinal Malaprop
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01-20-2007 11:46
Heh. Yes. Quite.

Rioa, you can AR if you are unable to enter your home sim, if it's because of someone else's activities - it's best to get your neighbours in on this and all do it, repeatedly. But the issue of abusive campsites and casinos is a long-running one, and one of the things LL really need to sort out, either by improving sims so much that it doesn't matter, or by acknowledging the problem and having a consistent and effective policy.
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Brazil Comet
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01-20-2007 11:55
I had a similar situation in the past, so i just sold the land i had there. This happened during my early days in SL (last November).

Right now i would react different.
First step to talk to the owner of the casino and ask him kindly to remove some camping charis, so he doens's get 100% of sim capacity (that's 40 avatars).

Then if he still doens't do anything, that means he has no respect and for sure he will know that nobody can really do anything so he just takes advantage of this.
In this second case, after the warning, I would set up a casino also (don't know how you do that, but i see many are doing that). I would kill his traffic by putting also some paying camping chairs. It would cost me some more lindens, but if someone doesn't understand the problem he creates , then you should do something the hard way. So if you finally succeed in limiting his traffic, then he will have to move away.


So start at first with friendly and kind approach. That might work most brobably (i hope)
Ordinal Malaprop
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01-20-2007 15:34
Personally I would engage in some boundary-pushing scripting experiments. You know, things like "what does happen when I rez the self-replicating physical twisted torus?"
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Madame Maracas
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01-20-2007 15:54
In the category of "when playing nice doesn't work", get all your friends to camp with you on yer less than respectful neighbor's land, take the neighbor's money, don't spend it in their casino, and either buy him out, shut him down by sucking up all his resources w/non-profitable campers or simply give him a taste of what it's like to not enjoy SL they way they'd like to, but of course that would be in the extreme last resort. And it could get damn tideous, possibly, for everyone.

In the selling the land option, I'd contact the casino owner, they prolly want the prims for more scripty laggy stuffs anyhow and since they're making all that dough (presumeably) from their campers, they'll be able to pay a fair market rate. Then go get yerself some land in a zoned community or a large enough chunk of a sim that you'll be able to enjoy it in a reasonable manner.

Or maybe your similarly inflicted neighbors might join you in a land buying effort to find a nice corner of non-camped SL to co-habitate in together?

In any case, I wish you luck and hope you're able to find a less than combative and swift resolution to the issue.
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John Horner
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01-21-2007 04:13
From: Ekeinus London
Hehe ....10L$ / meter ...thats funny .
Or this fourm has 4 month lag.

Any qty of mainland will leap out of your possession at 15$ these days, I would think at that price you would have the lowest priced plot on the grid. Dont take a beating just to move..


Yes sorry you are right, the $L10 was a typo error,I did mean to say $14, to err is to be human he said humbly

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