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Joining mainland plots of land

Tamlee Watler
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Join date: 21 Apr 2008
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01-25-2010 11:13
I have a question about land, mainland specifically.

If I have a plot of land, and I buy another plot and they're not adjacent but on the same sim, can I still join/connect them, gaining the benefit of the additional prims? Or, do the lands have to physically connect?

I think the answer is that they must be adjacent in order to join but just thought I'd ask before trying.

Thanks!

Tam
Eli Schlegal
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01-25-2010 11:15
As long as they are on the same sim you can join them.
Phil Deakins
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01-25-2010 11:39
As Eli said, you can join them even though they are in different parts of the sim. But you don't need to join them. You can automatically use all the combined prims in either or both of the parcels.
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Tamlee Watler
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01-25-2010 11:41
Thank you.

The next part of my question is: How does one purchase abandoned land?
Phil Deakins
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01-25-2010 11:45
If it's 512 or smaller, and if you already own land on 2 of its sides, you can request to buy it direct from LL by submitting a ticket. If it's larger than 512 or you don't own adjacent land on at least 2 sides, you simply have to wait until it appears in the auction and, unfortunately, there is no way of knowing when it will appear, so you have check every day.
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Rime Wirsing
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01-25-2010 12:03
There is a *lot* of abandoned land and it can take months or years to get into the auction queue.

However, you can usually expedite this by filing a support ticket under:

Land and Region Issues
Region Request: Land/Parcel issues
Land issue: Buying Land
Other person's name: Maintenance

Give the parcel location and in the ticket body say that you would like an opportunity to purchase the parcel through the auction process.

You will get a response to the ticket after a few days (depends on how busy they are) and the parcel should show up in the auction list within a few weeks.

You won't be notified further so you will need to check the parcel status on a daily basis (it will turn purple on the map and have an auction ID assigned) and then watch the auction pages for it to show up.

Good luck!

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Tini Jewell
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01-25-2010 14:59
From: Phil Deakins
If it's 512 or smaller, and if you already own land on 2 of its sides, you can request to buy it direct from LL by submitting a ticket. If it's larger than 512 or you don't own adjacent land on at least 2 sides, you simply have to wait until it appears in the auction and, unfortunately, there is no way of knowing when it will appear, so you have check every day.



You need to own on 3 sides...went through this a while ago as a corner in my sim was up for sale (before i owned the sim). i owned on the north and west side of the property, the east and south bordered two other sims. LL would not let me purchase, it went to auction, i ended up buying it after the realtor who won it sold to another resident and they put it up to sell afterward.

And if you do see it go to auction, be very aware of the time near the end of the auction. Set your price to the max you will pay for it. I lost the auction at the very last moment.
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Phil Deakins
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01-25-2010 15:09
I stand corrected, Tini.
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Marianne McCann
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01-25-2010 15:17
From: Eli Schlegal
As long as they are on the same sim you can join them.


*As long as they're not in Nova Albion (Miramare, Grignano, Sistiana, or Barcola), Bay City, Nautilus City or, I presume, in the double-primmed parts of Zindra (can someone confirm this?). These areas have join and divide off as a default
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Ciaran Laval
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01-25-2010 15:27
From: Marianne McCann
*As long as they're not in Nova Albion (Miramare, Grignano, Sistiana, or Barcola), Bay City, Nautilus City or, I presume, in the double-primmed parts of Zindra (can someone confirm this?). These areas have join and divide off as a default


It's not just double primmed parts of Zindra, I have a normal plot with subdivide turned off. I think it's the more city type areas in Zindra that you can't divide. The outer regions can be subdivided.
Sling Trebuchet
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01-25-2010 15:31
From: Tini Jewell
You need to own on 3 sides....


It depends...

I've picked up abandoned parcels with just two sides.

Perhaps I got one because I pointed out that because one of the parcel's boundaries was on the sim edge, only three boundary joins were possible - and I had two of them.

I recently got a 16 on which I had two boundaries. The other two boundaries had a Linden parcel on them.

I got another two-sided one because a Linden road was on one boundary.


The pattern was that I had more boundaries within the sim than any other resident.
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Marianne McCann
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01-25-2010 15:36
From: Ciaran Laval
It's not just double primmed parts of Zindra, I have a normal plot with subdivide turned off. I think it's the more city type areas in Zindra that you can't divide. The outer regions can be subdivided.


So Kama City parcels have join divide off, other Zindra parcels do not? Is there any easy way to know the difference between the two?
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Ciaran Laval
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01-25-2010 15:46
From: Marianne McCann
So Kama City parcels have join divide off, other Zindra parcels do not? Is there any easy way to know the difference between the two?


The map on this blog post is the best I've seen, but it doesn't name the actual regions that make up the city area:

https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/blog/2009/06/26/zindra-an-update
Marianne McCann
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01-25-2010 15:58
From: Ciaran Laval
The map on this blog post is the best I've seen, but it doesn't name the actual regions that make up the city area:

https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/blog/2009/06/26/zindra-an-update


Thanks: I could probably match that versus the inworld map (if I felt motivated to). It's kind of a shame they did not make those as clear as the Bay City or Nautilus City areas.
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Qie Niangao
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01-25-2010 16:20
If you're in the sim, you can check this (from World / "Region/Estate...";)

Note the "Allow Parcel Join/Divide" checkbox.

In Zindra sims, I think the "Block Terraform" box should always be checked whenever the "Allow Parcel Join/Divide" box is unchecked (that is, those are the Kama City "urban" sims).

May need to do Advanced/View Admin Options to see it, not sure.
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01-25-2010 16:56
From: Ciaran Laval
It's not just double primmed parts of Zindra, I have a normal plot with subdivide turned off. I think it's the more city type areas in Zindra that you can't divide. The outer regions can be subdivided.


I've sliced and dice my part of Zindra many times. And in my old Zindra plot as well I've observed neighbors doing it.

So its not all of Zindra that has that restriction.

On my main sim, I united several pieces that were split way apart just so they would share the same traffic pool. :D
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