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Logicog Halfpint

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04-10-2008 07:37

How do I turn off the "double up arrow"=run? Also how do I get rid of this DOS box?

The up arrow thing is a showstopper for me.

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04-10-2008 08:28

From: Logicog Halfpint

The up arrow thing is a showstopper for me.

I haven't tried it yet, but I'd assume it would be. I read that on the blog this morning, and right away I was like, "Uh, whose bright idea was that? And what were they on at the time?" Does LL not realize that people do routinely tap their controls in SL just to navigate? For many, holding down the controls makes for less precise movement. Tapping is very common.

What exactly was wrong with the ctrl-R toggle?

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04-10-2008 15:51

Oryx Tempel

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04-10-2008 15:54

What DOS box?

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04-10-2008 16:02

From: Logicog Halfpint

How do I turn off the "double up arrow"=run?

You go to http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6232 and maybe vote for the issue, maybe also leave a comment if there is some alternative behavior you would like better.

From: someone

Also how do I get rid of this DOS box?

How are you starting up the viewer?

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The up arrow thing is a showstopper for me.

Really? You can't run the regular client at all?

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Logicog Halfpint

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04-10-2008 16:40

From: someone

.. vote in the issue

done and done

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How are you starting up the viewer?

Clicking the link in my start bar.. the one that has always been fine

From: someone

Really? You can't run the regular client at all?

I am running it now.. But I'm switching to another viewer id the doubletap thing stays. What really sucks is that I like the LL viewer.

I play a RP (NoR) and part of the game requires me to hit the uparrow twice. Running does something completely unwanted. I mean there's not even an option to change it?

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04-10-2008 16:44

Double up arrow puts you into run mode in there.com, doesn't it?

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Lea Vendetta

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04-10-2008 18:40

the DOS box you see is probably the console window. Go to advanced toward the bottom you will see the console window option, make sure there isn't a X next to it. If that dosn't work et me know, i have done these things alot since i like to see what all the options do.

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04-10-2008 22:33

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Double up arrow puts you into run mode in there.com, doesn't it?

Yes.

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04-10-2008 23:04

eep. another virtual world? omg. there's only one thing that can keep the masses here!

bouncy boobies!!!

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3432

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04-11-2008 01:24

I don't like the new look, it's too much like a Mac interface. If I wanted to run things looking like Mac programs, I'd buy a Mac and run them on it. I have a PC by choice.

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04-11-2008 03:24

double-up is also used in BattleField II/2042

I think it may be something of a gaming standard? While it might take some getting used to, I'd like the ability to run without having to turn on "always run" and then remember to turn it off again.

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04-11-2008 03:41

From: Broccoli Curry

I have a PC by choice.

…and I always thought people had PC's just because they couldn't afford a Mac

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04-11-2008 03:48

What I don't get is... double-tapping up has always moved you forward. Some products additionally recognize this as a gesture to trigger something, or perhaps even override movement.
Now double-tapping up moves you forward a bit faster, and products still recognize the gesture and react, exactly like it has always worked.
Why that is a 100% gamebreaking, showstopping feature, I don't understand.

Are there products which truly do not work (and if so, why?), or is it merely that people would rather not have double-tapping being "overloaded" like that, on principle, to avoid any potential confusion?

On a personal note, not using any such products, I absolutely love the double-tap-to-run feature.

1.2 Viewer question
Logicog Halfpint Registered User Join date: 5 Mar 2008 Posts: 10	04-10-2008 07:37 How do I turn off the "double up arrow"=run? Also how do I get rid of this DOS box? The up arrow thing is a showstopper for me.
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	04-10-2008 08:28 From: Logicog Halfpint The up arrow thing is a showstopper for me. I haven't tried it yet, but I'd assume it would be. I read that on the blog this morning, and right away I was like, "Uh, whose bright idea was that? And what were they on at the time?" Does LL not realize that people do routinely tap their controls in SL just to navigate? For many, holding down the controls makes for less precise movement. Tapping is very common. What exactly was wrong with the ctrl-R toggle? _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Logicog Halfpint Registered User Join date: 5 Mar 2008 Posts: 10	04-10-2008 15:51 <poke thread to bump>
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	04-10-2008 15:54 What DOS box? _____________________
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	04-10-2008 16:02 From: Logicog Halfpint How do I turn off the "double up arrow"=run? You go to http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6232 and maybe vote for the issue, maybe also leave a comment if there is some alternative behavior you would like better. From: someone Also how do I get rid of this DOS box? How are you starting up the viewer? From: someone The up arrow thing is a showstopper for me. Really? You can't run the regular client at all? _____________________
Logicog Halfpint Registered User Join date: 5 Mar 2008 Posts: 10	04-10-2008 16:40 From: someone .. vote in the issue done and done From: someone How are you starting up the viewer? Clicking the link in my start bar.. the one that has always been fine From: someone Really? You can't run the regular client at all? I am running it now.. But I'm switching to another viewer id the doubletap thing stays. What really sucks is that I like the LL viewer. I play a RP (NoR) and part of the game requires me to hit the uparrow twice. Running does something completely unwanted. I mean there's not even an option to change it?
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	04-10-2008 16:44 Double up arrow puts you into run mode in there.com, doesn't it? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Lea Vendetta I broke my invetory Join date: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 97	04-10-2008 18:40 the DOS box you see is probably the console window. Go to advanced toward the bottom you will see the console window option, make sure there isn't a X next to it. If that dosn't work et me know, i have done these things alot since i like to see what all the options do.
Osprey Therian I want capslocklock Join date: 6 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,049	04-10-2008 22:33 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Double up arrow puts you into run mode in there.com, doesn't it? Yes. _____________________ http:www.atomic-raygun.com Combat Cards in Europa [url=http://slurl.com/secondlife/grignano/118/116/]The Photography Studio in Grignano[/url] Mud! Mud! Glorious mud! Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. So, follow me, follow, down to the hollow, And there let us wallow in glorious mud. Flanders and Swan
Whispering Hush ™ Join date: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 277	04-10-2008 23:04 eep. another virtual world? omg. there's only one thing that can keep the masses here! bouncy boobies!!! http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3432 you know you want them too
Broccoli Curry I am my alt's alt's alt. Join date: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,660	04-11-2008 01:24 I don't like the new look, it's too much like a Mac interface. If I wanted to run things looking like Mac programs, I'd buy a Mac and run them on it. I have a PC by choice. _____________________ ~ This space has been abandoned as I can no longer afford it.
Winter Ventura Eclectic Randomness Join date: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,579	04-11-2008 03:24 double-up is also used in BattleField II/2042 I think it may be something of a gaming standard? While it might take some getting used to, I'd like the ability to run without having to turn on "always run" and then remember to turn it off again. _____________________ ● Inworld Store: http://slurl.eclectic-randomness.com ● Website: http://www.eclectic-randomness.com ● Twitter: @WinterVentura
Dekka Raymaker thinking very hard Join date: 4 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,898	04-11-2008 03:41 From: Broccoli Curry I have a PC by choice. …and I always thought people had PC's just because they couldn't afford a Mac
Tali Rosca Plywood Whisperer Join date: 6 Feb 2007 Posts: 767	04-11-2008 03:48 What I don't get is... double-tapping up has always moved you forward. Some products additionally recognize this as a gesture to trigger something, or perhaps even override movement. Now double-tapping up moves you forward a bit faster, and products still recognize the gesture and react, exactly like it has always worked. Why that is a 100% gamebreaking, showstopping feature, I don't understand. Are there products which truly do not work (and if so, why?), or is it merely that people would rather not have double-tapping being "overloaded" like that, on principle, to avoid any potential confusion? On a personal note, not using any such products, I absolutely love the double-tap-to-run feature.

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