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Linden Lab: Expose the Griefers

Should LL expose griefers who persistently grief?

Yes, gimmie their name!
38 (76.0%)

No.
5 (10.0%)

There are griefers in SL?
7 (14.0%)

Total votes: 50
MadamG Zagato
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04-30-2007 14:35
NM. Got it.
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poopmaster Oh
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04-30-2007 14:37
Are the grief'ers french? or Anti-French?


the easiest way to avoid it is to not make a french themed build i guess....

on a side note, Earthquake DID not used to be kong, the Mummy is now where kong used to be.... :)
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MadamG Zagato
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04-30-2007 14:38
Absolutley not French. Speaks perfect English (including alll the 4 letter words) as far as I can tell. But thanks for the suggestion.
2k Suisei
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04-30-2007 14:39
You're right, people wouldn't be so mean without anonymity. But LL doesn't know their names. They sign up with a random email address.
Wilhelm Neumann
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04-30-2007 14:42
hiya please dont take this the wrong way but I think your using a system which shall remain nameless because its not important naming it really but if this is so and its a conclusion I drew awhile back that because of publicity it does get at times its a griefer magnet. Want to get rid of the griefer problem? might try using a banning system that doesn't name names and give griefers perceived fame. If your not using it then my mistake I thought I saw you said you were.

anyhow covering bases lol and probably should not post this because i dont want to get involved ina flame war its just advice from looking at human beings and human nature in general stop making their deeds of grief noteworthy ^^
Rusty Satyr
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04-30-2007 15:06
No way.

not unless you can guarantee that no griefer could ever fool the lindens into exposing the rl name of a non-griefer.
MadamG Zagato
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04-30-2007 17:20
From: poopmaster Oh
Are the grief'ers french? or Anti-French?


the easiest way to avoid it is to not make a french themed build i guess....

on a side note, Earthquake DID not used to be kong, the Mummy is now where kong used to be.... :)
You are correct! I just Googled it. I could have sworn that was the Kong Ride! I remember being in a subway like car...but it was so long ago (2001 or 2002) when I last rode it.

But The Mummy is way better than the Kong ride. The Mummy totally rocked my world! :D

On another note, I don't think that making a sim that celebrates another country is a reason for griefing. I have had many people of different nationalities enjoy themselves there. So that is no excuse for them to grief me. If you build a sim of my back yard because you think it is a beautiful back yard, I am not going to go grief it...that seems silly. (I am not saying you or your comment is silly, but the actions of griefers).

Whether my sim is French themed, German themed, or space themed there will be griefers. I think we can agree on that. LOL

But thanks again for letting me know about King Kong/Mummy/Earthquake.;)
MadamG Zagato
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04-30-2007 17:21
From: Rusty Satyr
No way.

not unless you can guarantee that no griefer could ever fool the lindens into exposing the rl name of a non-griefer.
Not everyone is so anxious to hide behind their avatar names LOL. But I do understand your point and I agree that there are non-griefers who would not want their RL names exposed. So I am with you on that point.
Gillian Vuckovic
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Join date: 4 Mar 2007
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04-30-2007 17:47
Would a griefer let their real name be known to LL?
Watermelon Tokyo
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04-30-2007 18:48
Wait wait.. is this about RL names or SL names?

Maybe there's good reason to keep RL names secret for whatever reason, I dunno... but I fail to see why we need to hide the names of SL names of the BadGuys secret. My vote if for showing the SL names of AR reported, sanctioned people in the police blotter and everywhere else!
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Gillian Vuckovic
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04-30-2007 18:53
If its SL names then yeah, might as well though I really doubt it will stop the griefers any more effectively than just banning the account since the griefers only make acounts to grief with and understand each one has a short usability span.

RL names is just too dicey and reliant on people silly enough to give their real name and then grief away. :)
Rusty Satyr
Meadow Mythfit
Join date: 19 Feb 2004
Posts: 610
04-30-2007 19:18
How about this:

Now that ratings are gone, use that space on our profiles to report:

AR's filed in last 30 days: 78
AR'd in the last 30 days: 34345
MadamG Zagato
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04-30-2007 21:24
From: Rusty Satyr
How about this:

Now that ratings are gone, use that space on our profiles to report:

AR's filed in last 30 days: 78
AR'd in the last 30 days: 34345
That would be a good idea IF LL were verifying every abuse report (like spamming and other things that can be verified by LL). If they just put up how many AR's were filed on any individual then we'd have a problem when the griefers AR the griefee just to bump up their AR count LOL....kind of like the old ratings system was when there was negative feedback on our profiles.

If LL were going to sort through and verify each AR that was valid and post the AR count to the griefers profile, I could see that. But as it looks now from the threads regarding AR's being ignored or unresolved...I can't see them doing that. They probably have more AR's than they are able to handle.

But if they WERE able to do this, then wew could ban those who had an AR report count of XX or more from our land. It still would not stop them from creating ALTS I guess.

I thought I read a thread where LL is back to verification again. (???) Was I dreaming?
Usagi Musashi
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04-30-2007 21:26
If they did expose griefters they would find big named large paying members caught in this mess of a web.
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MadamG Zagato
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04-30-2007 22:38
From: Usagi Musashi
If they did expose griefters they would find big named large paying members caught in this mess of a web.
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Go on.....
Usagi Musashi
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04-30-2007 22:42
From: MadamG Zagato
O_O
Go on.....


This is new? hardly :p
Strife Onizuka
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04-30-2007 22:42
This forum isn't for general discussion; there are many Resident Sites where this discussion is appropriate — Resident Answers is for Resident-to-Resident help. :) I'll close this thread...
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