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Is there a good primer for how to buy land?

Gillian Waldman
Buttercup
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 697
10-23-2006 07:59
I am about a month old and am looking for something that will walk me through how to approach buying land, building a home (or more likely, buying a prefab) and securing it properly. We're talking baby steps here. I find it very overwhelming to even think about. OR perhaps I just keep on going as I am - homeless - and when I am a more sophisticated resident, I readdress again...

Thoughts?
Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
10-23-2006 08:43
From: Gillian Waldman
I am about a month old and am looking for something that will walk me through how to approach buying land, building a home (or more likely, buying a prefab) and securing it properly. We're talking baby steps here. I find it very overwhelming to even think about. OR perhaps I just keep on going as I am - homeless - and when I am a more sophisticated resident, I readdress again...


The first thing to think about is which of the following three you want to do (I'm assuming you don't want to buy large amounts of land, since the situation for that changes a bit):

Option One: Buy land outright on the mainland.
Advantages: You deal directly with Linden Labs. You have full control over the land and can resell it at any time. You can buy First Land, which is the best value land in the game. Going Premium also gets you a L$300 stipend every week.
Disadvantages: Downpayment can be expensive. You have to pay monthly in US$. No zoning - your next door neighbour could build a 40 foot high wall right over the property line, or something that lags the sim down to a crawl. More open to griefing.

Option Two: Rent (anywhere), or buy land on a someone else's private island.
Advantages: Zoning - less lag and more control of what's there. Potential for extra primitives. Depending on the landlord's settings, you may have greater control of the land.
Disadvantages: You deal with a landlord who has the power to kick you out any time (although most won't), and you have no recourse if they do. You must still pay a monthly fee, but you may be able to pay in L$. You can't buy cheap first land and often can't resell without the landlord's consent.

If you want to rent, you just need to find a landlord (by looking through in-world advertisements) and IM them or one of their representatives. They will assign the land to you through a group (you'll need a spare group slot). Renting on mainland and on a private island have some technical differences, but your landlord will be able to explain these to you.

If you want to buy land on a private island (which resembles renting) then you can simply fly out to the island with the land for sale (you can find these using the Land Sales tab in the Search window), right click on the land, and say "Buy Land". You'll be told the cost of the land in L$ and confirmed you want to go ahead with the purchase. (If you don't have enough L$, Second Life will automatically offer to buy the extra needed L$ for you and tell you the US$ price.) Note that on a private island, you always have a landlord (to see who this is, open the World menu and choose the Region/Estate option) and there is also always a monthly fee as well as the land cost - make sure you establish what this fee is before you buy the land. The landlord will usually contact you to arrange payment of the fee, but they are not obliged to; if you do not pay they will typically revert your land purchase.

If you want to buy land on the mainland, you first need to upgrade to a Premium account via the Second Life website. As well as the ability to own mainland land this will get you a L$300 stipend. You can then buy land on the mainland in the same way described above, except that in this case the monthly fee for the land is paid directly to Linden Labs (in this case, the fee is callled "tier";) and the rules for paying it are built into the Second Life software. You should always start by buying First Land - search for "First Land" in the land sales tool - this is the best value land in the world (L$512 for 512sqm) and can always be resold for more than you paid for it, even if you don't want to live there. Other land may be much more expensive, depending on its properties. A Premium membership allows you to own 512sqm of land, which is enough for a simple house, but if you want more land you'll have to pay an increased monthly fee. When you try to buy the land, SL will warn you if it doesn't fit into your current fee level and ask you if you want to proceed with raising your monthly fee.

Building a house, I can't advise you on, since I'm still stuck on doing that myself :) Buying a prefab house is really no different from buying anything else - just make sure to check that the house fits on your land. That includes checking the size, but also checking the primitive count. (You can see how many prims you have available by going to your land and choosing "About Land" from the World menu. On a First Land plot you'll have 117 prims). Any good product seller will tell you these things in the product description.

Security.. really, the only security you need if you own (rather than rent) the land is to enable autoreturn on the area. (In the About Land screen, choose the Objects tab and set the "autoreturn other users' objects" value to anything other than 0.) As long as you own the land, if anyone you don't want there shows up while you're there, you can kick them out (right click on them, choose "More" and then "Eject";). Yes, people will be able to wander around your house while you're not online, but since they can't steal anything or do any harm, this isn't really that much of a problem.

If you're worried about eavesdropping, make sure there is a 10m clearance from the edge of your house (or at least the part of your house where you have private conversations) to the edge of your land. If the clearance is less, your neighbour can stand on the edge of their land and hear you (and SL precedent is that you have no claim against them in their case - where they're standing, it's their land). It is impossible to protect against camera snooping (where someone can see who you're with) - the only way to do this is to build a skybox.

If these isn't enough for you, you can purchase a "security orb", but these can be expensive and can cause hassle to your neighbours and people flying past. I'd advise initially doing without one and only installing one if you find things are becoming really untenable.
Aislin Keynes
Registered User
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 67
10-23-2006 08:46
Welcome to SL Gillian!

I could be wrong, but as far as I know there is no primer on buying land. We just learn as we go along :)

Start out with First Land, it's only $L512 and can be resold for a bit of a profit when your ready to move to something bigger. You can play with the land controls, raise it, lower it, flatten it out. But it always amazes me that so many people will buy a nice pretty hillside only to turn it into flat land. :)

There are lots of freebie prefabs out there. I'm trying to remember, there may even be some in your inventory. If not, Yadni's has boxes of them. The houses that will fit on a 512 lot are usually pretty easy to set up. Just drag it from inventory onto the ground and use your camera controls to rotate it to a position you like. The best thing is it's free so if you really manage to screw it up you can always pull out another. :)

I learnd alot from my first land/home. Camera controls, first stpes in texturing and building, how easy it is to overhear all your neighbors conversations. lol

Have fun and good luck
Gillian Waldman
Buttercup
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 697
10-23-2006 10:21
Wow - two of the most helpful posts I could have imagined. Thank you so much for taking the time to write all this up.

Best,
Gillian
Grace McConachie
Offensive broad
Join date: 8 Oct 2006
Posts: 54
10-23-2006 10:25
I just bought my first land 2 days ago and this is a great summary, Yumi. The only addition I have is about privacy.

The prefab (free!) house I erected has window shades that can be set to opaque so that no one can see in. They may still be able to 'hear' us (I haven't checked that yet), but they can't see us if the shades are drawn. It also has a lockable door so people can't wander through my house when I'm not around.

If anyone is interested in this particular house, IM me and I will look up the name of it. I can't remember it right now except that it was built by BSD. (And I'm at work at the moment, so I can't log in and check.) It is small (only 27 prims, I think), and has 2 rooms and a patio.

Cheers!
Grace



From: Yumi Murakami
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If you're worried about eavesdropping, make sure there is a 10m clearance from the edge of your house (or at least the part of your house where you have private conversations) to the edge of your land. If the clearance is less, your neighbour can stand on the edge of their land and hear you (and SL precedent is that you have no claim against them in their case - where they're standing, it's their land). It is impossible to protect against camera snooping (where someone can see who you're with) - the only way to do this is to build a skybox.

Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
10-23-2006 10:47
From: Grace McConachie

The prefab (free!) house I erected has window shades that can be set to opaque so that no one can see in. They may still be able to 'hear' us (I haven't checked that yet), but they can't see us if the shades are drawn. It also has a lockable door so people can't wander through my house when I'm not around.


I should warn you that both of these can be bypassed with techniques that are quite well-known.