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What does 'PG' mean

Idaho Merryman
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03-08-2008 11:37
Greetings

I'm learning about land in Second Life.
I've spent some time trying to get answers from the
'Knowledge Base' without too much luck.

When I search for land I can filter by 'PG' and 'Mature' however I can't find anything about the meanings of these two terms. I would have expected to get something from Knowledge Base > Land and the Linden Dollar ... > Land FAQ but no luck

What is 'PG' land
What is 'Mature' land

TIA

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Talarus Luan
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03-08-2008 11:48
PG land means the content cannot exceed certain standards related to violence, sex, adult themes, etc. Pretty much the same as the movie rating. It stands for "Parental Guidance suggested".

"Mature" land, on the other hand, there are no such restrictions on content, save the ToS, and whatever the landowner specifies.
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03-08-2008 12:26
Those ratings are very difficult to explain to people who are not in the USA. A lot of the other countries do not use those, and they do not make sense to people from "over there". I wish there were some guidelines written somewhere, as I'm constantly trying to explain, often in a foreign language that I do not speak well.
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03-08-2008 12:49
From: knowledge base

What is the difference between PG and Mature land?

Landowners can indicate their land to be either PG or Mature from the Region tab of the Region/Estate window, using the Maturity dropdown list.

The PG and Mature ratings mirror those used by many countries' movie and television industries to denote the age-appropriateness of behavior, language and creations within a given area of Second Life.

PG Areas are designated to be free from sexually explicit language or behavior, swearing and other forms of aggressive language, violent behavior and/or imagery, including horror. In Teen Second Life, "gambling" for Linden Dollars is also prohibited.

Children and young people up to age 17 are automatically restricted to Teen Second Life, a special PG area that separates them from the adult population of Second Life for their own protection.

Adults age 18 and over may seek an experience free of Mature content and so, we also offer PG areas within the adult regions of Second Life.

Mature areas are limited to the adult-accessible areas of Second Life only, and do allow adult language and behavior.
So how do I know where to draw the line?

PG regions have frequently been described as an area where you're free to say and do things that you would feel comfortable doing in front of your grandmother, or a grade school class.

In Mature regions, Residents can be free to engage in more adult activity and language, though of course, explicit adult content must be contained behind "closed doors".

However, if you feel there's some ambiguity as to whether or not your activity or content is allowed in a PG region, it's likely best kept to a Mature region.


this is the most thorough explanation LL has ever provided on this topic that I am aware of.
SuezanneC Baskerville
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03-08-2008 13:29
Community Standards says:

From: someone
Indecency
Second Life is an adult community, but Mature material is not necessarily appropriate in all areas (see Global Standards below). Content, communication, or behavior which involves intense language or expletives, nudity or sexual content, the depiction of sex or violence, or anything else broadly offensive must be contained within private land in areas rated Mature (M). Names of Residents, objects, places and groups are broadly viewable in Second Life directories and on the Second Life website, and must adhere to PG guidelines.

If you go to Google and use this as the search term

"second life" pg mature site:secondlife.com

and read the 1,140 English pages in the results list I bet you will have at least some idea of what it means.

PG is the polite, genteel, reserved mode of behavior, no cussing, no swearing, keep your clothes on, don't be talking about or engaging in sex all the time.

Mature means you can cuss and talk about sex, can wear more revealing clothing, etc. On Linden sims you still should show some reserve and restraint (not the Restrained Life kind) in the broadly visible areas if you don't want to get complaints from your neighbors.

The term "PG" derives historically from the PG term used for movie rating in the U.S. but it was not intended to be interpreted in a literal sense as following the exact same standards used by the MPAA in their definitions of standards for classifying movies. Both the words "Parental" and "Guidance" that the acronym PG stands for in the MPAA context are meaningless in the context of the term's use in Second Life and should just be left out of discussion. There's a more reserved, more genteel, more demure mode of behavior and there a hey, let's get raunchy and be crude and wild standard, at least when aren't out in the park where people are trying to play chess standard.

The precise rules and criteria for these two different behavioral standards varies from person to person and place to place.
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03-08-2008 13:32
.. of course, in 1978, "PG" included full frontal CHILD male nudity.(Superman)

In modern usage, a lot of people mistake "PG" (Parental Guidance Suggested) for "G" (General Audiences). Unfortunately a lot of people in Second Life would like to change all PG rated sims to "G", and will actually abuse-report you if your content is in any way not suitable for all audiences.

It's really kind of sad. It's something some of us refer to as the "Disnification" of Second Life. Ironic again, given that in 1978, Disney was making horror films with main characters dying in explosions, on-screen eviscerations, and depictions of Hell (The Black Hole).

Whether those Abuse Reports will be responded to, depends entirely on the sensibilities of the Linden who reads it.
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03-08-2008 14:16
I always thought PG meant: don't do anything you wouldn't do in front of your parents...

Works well enough as a guideline, just by embarrassment factor alone!
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03-08-2008 14:19
depends on your parents.
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Har Fairweather
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03-08-2008 14:31
From: Desmond Shang
I always thought PG meant: don't do anything you wouldn't do in front of your parents...

Works well enough as a guideline, just by embarrassment factor alone!


Of course that depends on your parents. If your dad was Wavy Gravy and your mom was Madonna - O.O, a different standard is needed. Perhaps: Only what you would do, say or wear at the Republican National Convention?

Hhmm, no, on second thought, I shudder to think what some of this crowd might inflict on the Republican National Convention...

How about this: Only what you would do, wear, say in a public square in your home town with your neighbors watching.

Anyhow, I think the OP gets the idea by now.
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03-08-2008 14:43
I have many times wished that LL had been trying to work up an order from Popeye's Chicken when they took on the task of naming the behavior codes, then the terms would be Mild and Spicy.

Maybe, just maybe, if they'd used the terms Mild and Spicy, people wouldn't take them literally and be arguing years later about how much cayenne and jalapeños they can include in food items in Mild sims.
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03-08-2008 15:08
Ive always thought the two designated choices should be "Mature" and "Immature".
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03-08-2008 15:12
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
I have many times wished that LL had been trying to work up an order from Popeye's Chicken when they took on the task of naming the behavior codes, then the terms would be Mild and Spicy.

Maybe, just maybe, if they'd used the terms Mild and Spicy, people wouldn't take them literally and be arguing years later about how much cayenne and jalapeños they can include in food items in Mild sims.


Somebody needs to order out for a pizza - with cayenne flakes as one of the toppings.
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03-08-2008 16:52
From: Toy Halfpint
Ive always thought the two designated choices should be "Mature" and "Immature".


That will never work

99.9% of the world is immature.
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03-08-2008 19:41
PG?

More likely to be pretty.

Less likely to be fun.
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03-08-2008 19:43
Here are some alternation meanings of PG:

PG Page
PG Pregnant
PG Pacific Grove
PG Paint Grade (building supplies)
PG Pair Gain (telephony)
PG Papua New Guinea (ISO country code, top level domain)
PG Parity Game
Pg Parteigenosse (German: Member of NSdAP)
PG Patch Guard (computer security)
PG Patrol Combatant
PG Patrol Combatant Ship
PG Patrol Gunboat
PG Pattern Generator
PG Paul Graham (computer scientist and essayist)
PG Paying Guest
PG Peer Group
PG Peer Guardian
PG Pell Grant
PG Penang (Malaysia)
PG Pepsinogen
PG Perfect Game (baseball statistics)
PG Permanent Grade
PG Persian Gulf
PG Persona Grata (Latin: Welcom)
PG Perugia (Italy)
PG Peter Gabriel (music artist)
PG Peter Gardiner (Australian "Quiz King";)
PG Peter Griffin (cartoon character)
PG Pharmacopeia Germanica
PG Phoenix Gold (car stereo manufacturer)
PG Phosphogypsum
PG Photo-Reconnaissance Group
PG Pinot Gris (wine)
PG Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (newspaper)
PG Plasma Glucose
PG Plasma Gun
PG PlatinumGamers (now Pgen)
PG Playgirl (magazine)
PG Please God
PG Point Guard (basketball)
PG Policy Guide
PG Port Gamble (Washington)
PG Postgraduate
PG Power Gamer (gaming)
PG Power Generation
PG Pressure Gauge (Sprint)
PG Preventie en Gezondheid (Nederlandse Organisatie voor Toegepast Natuurwetenschappelijk Onderzoek)
PG Price Guide
PG Prince George's (county in Maryland)
PG Prisonnier de Guerre (French: Prisoner of War)
PG Process Gas
PG Processing Gain
PG Proctor & Gamble Company
PG Procurement Group (TAT-14)
PG Procureur-Generaal
PG Product Group
PG Professional Geologist
PG Profoundly Gifted
PG Programmer
PG Progressão Geométrica
PG Project Group
PG Project Gutenberg
PG Projective Geometry
PG Propylene Glycol
PG Prospective Gain
PG Prostaglandin
PG Protection Group (Nortel)
PG Protective Guideline
PG Proteoglycan
PG Proving Ground
PG Pwllgwyngyll (Wales)
PG Spratly Islands
pg Picogram (one-trillionth of a gram)
pG Professional Gamer
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03-08-2008 20:03
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03-08-2008 20:11
I intentionally purchased land on a PG sim that was surrounded by other PG sims. I did this on purpose because I wanted an environment free of sex clubs and their clientele that frequently wandered into my home in other locations where I have lived (which were Mature sims). I don't have a problem with those clubs and people per se, I just feel that Mature sims are the appropriate place for them.

And what happens soon after I move into my PG sim? A large parcel in the adjacent sim (also PG) is purchased by a sex club, and they set up shop. AR'd them to Linden. Nothing changed, no response from Linden. I am very disgusted. Don't call them PG sims, if you aren't going to enforce the community standards that have been defined.
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But but but ....
03-09-2008 01:04
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
Community Standards says:


If you go to Google and use this as the search term

"second life" pg mature site:secondlife.com

and read the 1,140 English pages in the results list I bet you will have at least some idea of what it means.



Well actually I don't want to have to wade through (1,310 hits from google.co.uk). I want to go to the knowledge base, type 'PG' into the search box and get the answer.

When I did this yesterday I got a whole load of stuff about renting land for events, when I did this just now I got the 'What is the difference between PG and Mature land?' topic at the top of the hit list ... spooky.

Anyway, thanks for all the replies, I think I've got it now.

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