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Captured by a flying cage????

Arminasx Saiman
Registered User
Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 28
12-14-2006 18:21
I was minding my own business last night at Bravo Bravo, and suddenly this cylindrical cage appeared and swallowed my companion and then another cage grabbed me. The cage flew up very high and far, then disappeared, leaving me to fall quite a long way to the ground. After returning to my original location, the strange cage appeared again and tried to take me away, but it got hung up on some object and merely had me captured for several minutes.

My question is simple: What the heck was that all about? No one I've asked has ever heard of such a thing?
Angelique LaFollette
Registered User
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,595
12-14-2006 18:28
You were Caged by a griefer, or griefers.
The Cage Weapon is one of the Favored toys of the Immature minds.

If it Happens again, Click on the cage and edit to get the creator/Owners name, and AR them, Include a Photograph. I'm not sure if Cages leave a P2P record as well, but you can Check.
Angel.
Banking Laws
Realty Serious
Join date: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 602
12-14-2006 18:32
I think it is under bumps - bumped by scripted object, when it impacts you.
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Errafel Eccleston
Has no Custom Title
Join date: 27 Nov 2005
Posts: 105
12-14-2006 19:05
Next time it happens, right-click on the cage as fast as you can and select edit.
That will 'freeze' it and you can use a flight script to move away, provided you have one that can move you at a nearly uncontrollable speed. MultiGadget god speed, for example. That'll get you out of the cage, and out of sensor range. At that point you may want to stay away from the area for a few minutes.
Peekay Semyorka
Registered User
Join date: 18 Nov 2006
Posts: 337
12-14-2006 19:13
Or just press ctrl-shift-H which teleports you home.

Sometimes you can just "Stand Up" to get out of it. Also if you're sitting, then the cage gun wont work against you (so if you see someone getting caged, just sit down somewhere.)

-peekay
Dylan Rickenbacker
Animator
Join date: 11 Oct 2006
Posts: 365
12-14-2006 23:28
A trapping device like that is part of a gadget called MystiTool. I once saw a friend (cough) use it to trap a griefer, who then disappeared by tp'ing away. So I gather my friend could get in trouble for a thing like that?

Dylan
Kalel Venkman
Citizen
Join date: 10 Mar 2006
Posts: 587
12-15-2006 00:04
From: Dylan Rickenbacker
A trapping device like that is part of a gadget called MystiTool. I once saw a friend (cough) use it to trap a griefer, who then disappeared by tp'ing away. So I gather my friend could get in trouble for a thing like that?

Dylan


Yes, technically your friend could get in trouble for it - in practice, though, it takes dozens of AR's before anything happens to you, and most griefers don't even know there is an abuse reporting system. They didn't read the ToS when they logged in, because they don't care, and they don't know about Live Help, because they don't want to talk to the administrators, since they know damned well they're the bad guys, so your chances of getting AR'ed by somebody who's out there using the most easily obtainable griefing tool in SL is pretty darned low.

However, abuse reports don't expire, so if you kept it up, you could find yourself with a suspension for the equivalent of jay-walking one day. Keep it up and you can get permabanned. And to anyone else reading this who things he's going to get away with it indefinitely, you won't - there are people who go around with nothing on their minds other than filing abuse reports, and if you're a bad boy (or girl) you can get those three or four dozen abuse reports filed on you pretty quick. My friends and I witnessed some pretty heinous griefing one evening and wound up filing two dozen abuse reports on one guy within an hour's time, so it can rack up pretty fast.
Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
12-15-2006 00:06
If I would be caged against my free will, I would report abuse.

And I think it is no good to use "abusive methods" against griefers. It lowering yourself to the same level as them.

But things to consider is that people have no idea what is allowed and what not (and yes, I have been there too... but I always take the safe side when not sure).

Morwen.
Checho Masukami
UnRez it or use a hammer
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 191
12-15-2006 01:22
Every time Im caged I go to the edit screen for the cage and after making the proper AR I check the profile of the griefer. Its a shame to see that sometimes they are "old" people, with Info payment and good reputation. I can believe those people never read about the ToS before using their credit card info.
Cages are not the only plague. Since the last two weeks there is a Followers ephidemia in the Sandboxes.
Gillian Waldman
Buttercup
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 697
12-15-2006 04:58
Last night we went to a weapons testing sandbox to try out a new fighter jet LOL. My fiance was quickly entrapped in an orb but when I contacted the owner, he was semi-quickly released. Sometimes you get more with sugar :)

On another I have never seen this before thing, there was someone there that had built an incredible display of sensory spiders who quickly crawl all over you as soon as you land. I had fun with those. Very cool stuff.

However I guess if I was caged while not asking for trouble, I would just get out as quickly as possible. I have never ARd anyone for it...yet. But it's only happened once and I hung around to see what would happen next LOL.
Checho Masukami
UnRez it or use a hammer
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 191
12-15-2006 05:44
Well. I spend almost all my time in Sandboxes and at first I tried to have dialog with the cagers but the most of the times the result was me caged again.
The followers are a bigger problem becose the owners release them and those things stays there for hous. In this case I always try to contact the owners asking them to remove the followers but is very common that the owner is offline. In those cases they get a AR from me for sure.

Other thing is the objects for sale and gambling machines in the sandboxes where that is not allowed. In those cases I just rez a prim covering the device and thats all. Making AR for that is a lost of time for me and I don't get any benefits from doing it. in those cases.
Banking Laws
Realty Serious
Join date: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 602
12-15-2006 09:47
From: Checho Masukami
Well. I spend almost all my time in Sandboxes and at first I tried to have dialog with the cagers but the most of the times the result was me caged again.
The followers are a bigger problem becose the owners release them and those things stays there for hous. In this case I always try to contact the owners asking them to remove the followers but is very common that the owner is offline. In those cases they get a AR from me for sure.

Other thing is the objects for sale and gambling machines in the sandboxes where that is not allowed. In those cases I just rez a prim covering the device and thats all. Making AR for that is a lost of time for me and I don't get any benefits from doing it. in those cases.


I did AR one guy for each item (the same thing set for sale) he had in all 6 main sandboxes after I spoke to him and he insisted on not doing anything but putting more out. All in all, he got between 50 and 60 abuse reports today, within 3 hours.

Another thing that irritates me is the people leaving starships out.

'People appreciate the work put into them'

People appreciate the space to build ALOT more.

The recruiting signs for a certain navy/airforce etc are also ranking up there.

I CAN say I don't report people who are obvious newbies and I try to speak to the people first. Today I was hit with watermelons and snowballs, and even caged once, but spoke to them and told them no weapon zone etc, since they were born this week. Benefit of the doubt- just don't burn me.
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Randy Houston
Registered User
Join date: 13 Dec 2006
Posts: 6
12-15-2006 09:55
Lol captured by a flying cage. i can believe what kind of weapons or annoyances people can make in the game. im new to the game and i did read up of coarse about being a nuiscance like pushing, annoying and shooting other users and that you can be banned for it. not all of us new people ignore reading the stuff. only reason i came about was seeing if i can use weapons and where.
Mickey Udal
Registered User
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
Posts: 4
12-15-2006 10:06
Getting caged is not a problem for me - easy to get out. But if the griefer is repeatedly caging newbies I'll AR him/her - SL is difficult enough for new arrivals without some a-hat messing with them !

So - Sit - Mute - AR !!
Wildthrust Mathilde
Registered User
Join date: 22 Nov 2006
Posts: 49
12-15-2006 13:18
Thats the main reason I try to stay away from the real public sandboxs. Second is clutter out the wazoo. I need a sandbox with a long period before a wipe, but also need space to build. At first I found one little player ran public sandbox, but grew out of it once I had learned the basics of building. Found another that has been great, but now it maxes out when I rez my main structure (that or im just maxing my allotment out?).

Most disruptive grief tactic I would say are bumper bots that just keep nudging you and follow you. Even if you out distance them as they usually dont move fast, they are still there waiting for you if you go back.

Most irritating is cageing. Other things you can do to get out of some (not all) cages is to sit on the cage, or someplace nearby. Also sometimes you can just walk in a direction and eventualy get yourself out.

Sofar I haven't reported anyone cause I find the more attention you give them the more insentive they have to harrass you. So I usually just go back to what I was doing.

Orbiting is also irritating cause at best you have to wait for it to run out then tp out or even just back to the sandbox. At worst it blows your client and you have to login again.

Anytime im out and about I keep my psitec (sp?) shield running in a minimal mode. It keeps me from getting pushed, and seems to block the more common cages as well as dmg. I can fight back though if I want. The little psitek implant is cool cause for some attacks it will ID who attacked you and instantly pop up a menu listing options of what to do back to them :D

But as I said, usually I just extracate myself from the situation and go back to what I was doing and ignore them.
Janka Werribee
Scripter Wannabe
Join date: 28 Oct 2006
Posts: 64
12-15-2006 13:35
From: Mickey Udal
Getting caged is not a problem for me - easy to get out. But if the griefer is repeatedly caging newbies I'll AR him/her - SL is difficult enough for new arrivals without some a-hat messing with them !

So - Sit - Mute - AR !!


I'd recommend ARing everyone who does things like that to you: if they do it to you, they do it to newbies.
Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
12-15-2006 18:49
The caging has got so bad i'm about to create a HUD that communicates with a prim that wil parcel ban the owner upon it's collision. i wish there was a llAddToEstateBanList() function but yea... no way for the region to identify it just yet. llReturnObject() would be nice too.
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