About renting out

Hi.

I have a land where I have put up a 5 storey building. I have created a group where myself and my alt are owners, and there are now 3 other members who are set to "tenants" (a role I have created in the group). The tenants have been granted the right to "set land to home"

I have set the land to group. But it seems to me that isn't enough. None of the tenants are able to set home here. MUST I deed te land to group to make this work? And is it safe to do it now that there are members in the group? What is really the difference between deed and set when it comes to theese thing?

Also about the building. The doors and windows are menudriven and the doors can be looked. But how do I make the tenants be able to do that? They can't acces that menu, seems like only the owner (me) can. Is it any way to work around that? With group land, set objects to group or whatever?

To keep your land safe, you need to make sure that the 'Tenant' Role in your group cannot set the land for sale, receive payments to the group or anything like that (sorry I'm not in-world right now to check exact options). Basically anything to do with money

Re the doors and windows, it will depend how the script is set up. You may need to Share them with Group (an Edit option) to get that to work, but I'm not sure - you could test with your Alt? With the door scripts i've used, either i've had to edit the script to add the Tenants names to the people allowed to open the door, or, if the rental is controlled by one well-known rental box system (can't name names!), you can buy a door plug-in script that only allows the person that's paid the box (and you, and anyone they put on their access list) to open the door.

HTH.

I would like to have a better understanding of this too. What is the difference betweening setting the land to group. and deeding the land to group?

Princess Ivory

not an expert, but I *think* (allegedly) that setting the land to group allows others in the group to set objects, create, etc... essentially to use and enjoy. Deeding on the other hand means you are handing the land over to the group, and as well as the above, anyone in the group with the right permissions can then sell the land etc. If the owner does not "make contribution with deed" then the group must have enough funds to pay the appropriate tier... but open to be corrected on that

How's your rentals coming along, Princess?

First, be aware of the About-Land settings. Some of these settings can restrict group member permissions further than as stated below, foex: create objects can have checkboxes for 'everyone', 'group' and I think the third is owner only. These combined with the Objects tab entry for auto return afer xxx minutes, will effect the below. That said...

SET TO GROUP

This will allow group members who are allowed to create objects on the land, leave them out, without auto return returning their items to their inventory. It is good for when you have one real owner, don't need the mainland 10% bonus and still need to have someone else leave objects around (like say a vendor in shop space on an estate parcel).


DEED TO GROUP

1) On mainland this gives a 10% land bonus. Requires at least two members, but the second can have lots of restrictions on what they can do so you can still have one main owner and be 'safe'. Those of us around a while remember when this wasn't true and there were more risks involved.

2) Land deeded to group can have all, some or none of the group members able to set the land as home as defined by their group role.

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Above all else, crawl through your group tabs. Learn and understand the roles and abilities thoroughly before considering deeding land to group. Little things like the 'group liabilities' checkbox under accounting. If you list 'show in search' for one or more group owned land parcels, all group members with that checked in their role will get dinked a bit of money. For some folks its such a small amount its not worth mentioning, for others it can put them into negative balance wit the Lindens.

There are many others that your average group member probably won't ever have as an ability in their role: deeding land to group, the ability to sell or abandon land, and so forth.

I strongly support the use of group land for folks that are partnered but also STRONGLY support the limitations of the roles within the group to be strongly biased in favor of whoever made the investment (unless it was 50/50 in which case you might have issues whenever drama hits... we'll hope it doesn't).

So in a nutshell, setting the land to group will help with auto return and almost nothing else. Deeding the land to group opens far more possibilities, but you need to understand the group roles thoroughly to make it really work for you (and not against you).

Char

I'm pretty familiar with working with group deeded land settings, and all the various options. Basically, I get all the power as owner, and everyone else can build and make it their home, and pretty much nothing else.

It's just that "set to group" without checking the "deed to group" box was not clear to me. Trying to understand exactly what rights are available to members if I only set to group, and if there are any risks to me setting to group, as opposed to deeding to group.

Thanks for your explanations everyone, I think I have a better understanding of it, although I still feel a little shaky on the set to group function.

Princess Ivory