Camping Vs Traffic??

I have been wondering about this for some time and decided to ask you all because I'm not really sure anymore how traffic works now.

Used to be that when an AV landed on your land that they only generated traffic for the first 15 mins they were there. If they didn't stay 15 mins you didn't get the traffic and if they stayed longer it didn't make a diference because you only recieved the "traffic points" for the first 15 mins. Also depended on how often the AV logged into SL to how many points they generated for you and if you were the first place they went you got more of the % of the traffic points then the rest of the places they would go.

Or thats what I thought how it went. Was I wrong?

If I am right then why do people pay campers to sit on thier land for traffic when the points are only given for the first 15 mins and so you are paying them for hours of time there that you aren't getting any traffic points for?

Or has anyone with camping pads, chairs, cleaners, etc. thought about this?

Seems to me would be better to spend the money to hire someone to just be at your business and "work" by helping customers for an hour a day. That way you get the traffic and also have good customer service.

Very true. But you forget all the kids that arrive without a dime in their pockets, without the ability to buy L$. They're not looking for a place to spend but a place to earn. Pay people who can't pay, not caring about their age, to attract business owners who can pay with inflated visitor numbers, hoping to finally also attract paying customers for those business owners to keep them happy... hm... looks like the club-owners are trying to imitate LL.

Thank You Llauran for your direction but I wasn't looking for an answer from the Lindens but from the residents of SL and other forum users.

Sometimes the Lindens speak in circles or complex answers and for some who like me have comphension problems (due to illness and high 02) would like things a bit more easier to understand.

Also not everyone is an internet or tech guru. Especially new users to sl might find it easier to understand things said by other users.

Actually, the Linden post on it isn't too bad. It's straight to the point.

But this has been covered numerous times in resi answers as well, so search in this specific forum for camp to bring up several threads with good insights.

The way you described is how it used to work. The current system seems to be 1 traffic point per avie, per minute, starting at the very first minute.

The old system worked because it cost money to create an alt. If the same system was still in place now then all it would take to reach #1 was to create 100 free unverified alts, make sure they each spend 15 minutes on your land and then log them all off.

(After rereading your post I should point out that the old system actually worked differently from what I can tell. Your avie got a certain number of traffic points per day (say 100 for the sake of illustrating). If you spent all your online time (beyond 15 minutes) at spot A than A got all of your 100 points. If you spent 2 hours at A, 1 hour at B, 2 at C and 10 minutes at D then both A and B got 40, C got 20 and D didn't get anything.)

Thank You so much for your replies and I will do some searchs but do appreciate your taking the time... each one of you for answering

Hi Zazas,

The system you're describing was the system used for dwell - the L$ subsidy for popular locations, which no longer exists. It seems that dwell and traffic were calculated by different methods - traffic was always just based on raw number of avatars and time, as far as I know, anyway.

I don't like camping chairs much but I at least have some sympathy for them. The problem is, for something like a clothes shop where you want to browse and try different things it's great, but for the kind of shop where you want to go in, find the thing you want, buy it and then move on, people who design them get penalised by low traffic scores because visitors don't spend time there.

I don't like camping chairs AND I have no sympathy for them.

In places where a store or a club using camping devices shares parcels with adjacent landowners, those landowners are forced to deal with a sim running like crap because of so many zombies camping for pennies in one spot.

Landowners who use these devices on any place other than a private island are phenomenally inconsiderate to both their active customers and their neighbors, and in places where they really bring the sim to a complete halt the Lindens have and will delete camping devices.

I don't recommend them at all, and I think their use is beyond unfair.

I only use 2 of them, hardly a ton of sim resources. Most stores only have a few, it's the casinos and clubs that are having them there for no reason other than traffic. If we were to argue by your theory, then people who throw parties at their own homes are inconsiderate and rude for having so many people on their own parcel.

It's the only traffic solution for stores who want to be seen, and can't afford $100USD just to get a classified front page listing. Camping chairs tend to pay less than classified. Until someone comes up with something better, who are any of you to complain? If you have ideas on what works better, go right ahead and share. Otherwise keep complaining about some store owners who are making do with what they have been dealt by LL.

I think that would depend entirely on what type of customers you're aiming your store for.
I don't really care if a store is using camping chairs or not (in fact, I love the ones Belle Belle put up ).

I know I used search when I was brand new, but I also remember that 9 out 10 times it put me in a mall with plenty for sale, but not anything I was actually looking for. Search has become so polluted with generic keywords that it's really of no use to me personally. I've never used classifieds even once to look for anything and I don't think I really know anyone who does either, except to look for specific skills (a job, a builder, scripter, etc).

If I see furniture or a gadget I like then I'll look at the creator and get the location from their profile (although it's amazing how many don't have their own store located in their picks). New stores for clothes I'll find either because a friend tells me about it, or because I like something I see featured in one of the fashion blogs and decide to go have a look.

If the stores I do know about don't have anything I'm really looking for, I'll ask friends and/or simply search for it on SL Boutique or SL Exchange, get the name of the creator and then back in world look at their profile for a location.

In short I would say that the only way to reach me would be to create something I like, or to create something my friends like and I'll hear it from them, or create something that gets featured on a blog and I'll read about it. Word of mouth doesn't mean anything is necessarily good, but I know I'm better off with a recommendation from someone than any $100 self-promotion ad.

I think everyone should really stop worrying about how high their traffic is or join the classifieds outbidding game and just focus on creating nice things and settle for whatever you personally find works for attracting new people to your store. The rest will work itself out .