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Private Islands - Presale questions

Baba Zhao
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Join date: 28 Sep 2006
Posts: 8
01-04-2007 16:09
I understand Private Islands are purchased through the Land Store which is a Map.

1) Is there any place to click on the Map that is better than another? Is it a good idea to click where there is space around my "yellow square." Is West better than East? N, S?

2) Is there any place in-world to preview any of the four island types offered? Are there preferred usages for each type? (Topography is only suggested in the 2-d thumbnails)

3) When you buy your Island you are asked to name the Region. What is that, or how does Region differ from the Island Name? Any suggestions?

4) When you name the Island, can you use the word "Island?" For instance if I name an island "Bubu Island" is that ok, or will it show as "Bubu Island Island?" Is it better to not use the word "Island?" Just Bubu?

Thank you for any direction. I have searched for this far and wide w/o finding answers to what one would think would be clear somewhere..
Rock Ryder
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Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 384
01-05-2007 01:53
From: Baba Zhao
I understand Private Islands are purchased through the Land Store which is a Map.

1) Is there any place to click on the Map that is better than another? Is it a good idea to click where there is space around my "yellow square." Is West better than East? N, S?

2) Is there any place in-world to preview any of the four island types offered? Are there preferred usages for each type? (Topography is only suggested in the 2-d thumbnails)

3) When you buy your Island you are asked to name the Region. What is that, or how does Region differ from the Island Name? Any suggestions?

4) When you name the Island, can you use the word "Island?" For instance if I name an island "Bubu Island" is that ok, or will it show as "Bubu Island Island?" Is it better to not use the word "Island?" Just Bubu?

Thank you for any direction. I have searched for this far and wide w/o finding answers to what one would think would be clear somewhere..


Hi Baba,

1) There is no advantage to buying an Island North, South, East or West, in the ocean that surrounds the mainland. People tend to buy in an 'open' area, simply because they want to be able to expand their holdings in the future, if their particular project is profitable, and they prefer adjacent sims.

2) Don't know if there are any demo islands to see, but when I received mine a few days ago, it was clear that it was extremely 'basic'. I had to ditch the terrain file (actually I just saved it) and I bought a ready-made beautiful Island terrain file from a vendor (try Island-in-a-Box for example). Of course, you could save L$30k by terraforming the land yourself, using terrain-forming tools (lots on the slexchange website) or by manipulating the terrain file in Photoshop or PaintShop Pro.

3) When you buy a private island sim you are asked to provide names for the Estate and the Region. First of all, private island = sim = region. So the name for your region is the name for your private island. An Estate is a collection of 1 or more regions. There are Estate tools that can change settings across all the private islands you own that are part of the same Estate, so you don't have to do it one-by-one.

4) You can use whatever words you like for your private island, including the word 'island', but the name must not be more than 3 words, or more than 20 chars in length. The word 'island' can be a little confusing at first, because your private sim may not look like an island at all, it can be land edge to edge. The surrounding 'ocean' is not accessible, you cannot cross into it, so you cannot fly out of your sim, and others cannot fly in (unless you have purchased an adjoing sim). So don't think you can have land from edge to edge, and you can still dip your toes into the surrounding ocean, you cannot. If you want sea you can use, you must make it on your land. Nothing is added to the name you provide for the Region. So if you call it Bubu Island that is exactly what it is called on the Map, and in blue at the top centre of your screen.

Final word of warning: The website says it can take up to 10 working days to deliver your island once you have bought it. It took nearer 20 working days for mine to be delivered recently, as there is currently a backlog.

Regards

Rock
Baba Zhao
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Join date: 28 Sep 2006
Posts: 8
01-05-2007 08:58
Thanks, Rock, excellent.

Really important stuff there to know. I could not get Linden on the phone, so you are especially appreciated.

I've heard the terrain defaults are sort of like default AVs so will check out your Rx.

One question, IF you have land over several regions can you make them all under One (your one single) estate. I presume so.

Looks like we have some work to do before we leap, and even more after we do leap.

Thanks!

BZ
Anna Gulaev
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Join date: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 154
01-05-2007 09:05
Can the region name and the estate name be the same? Is the estate name even used in any way that other residents see?
Zaphod Kotobide
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Join date: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 2,087
01-06-2007 13:48
From: Anna Gulaev
Can the region name and the estate name be the same? Is the estate name even used in any way that other residents see?


Both the region and estate names are exposed to all residents on the Covenant tab of the About Land dialog. They can be the same name. Other than that, how they are used is entirely at the discretion of the estate owner. It is there purely for organizational purposes. A good example is this:

I live within a group of private residential sims - the name of the estate is "Lakeview Estates". The regions have varying names with the "lakeview" theme.. "Lakeview Manor", "Lakeview Villas", etc.

zk
Wavie Haller
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Join date: 18 Dec 2006
Posts: 82
01-07-2007 15:48
is there a limit to how many regions you can have/name? if yes do you know how many it is?
Rock Ryder
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Join date: 6 Oct 2006
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01-10-2007 06:29
From: Wavie Haller
is there a limit to how many regions you can have/name? if yes do you know how many it is?


Don't know for sure, but the Land Store faq mentions no upper limit, and the Dreamland Estate (Anshchung) has LOTS of regions.

Rock
Tillie Ariantho
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Join date: 14 Dec 2006
Posts: 8
how private is private?
01-10-2007 07:42
From: Rock Ryder
The surrounding 'ocean' is not accessible, you cannot cross into it, so you cannot fly out of your sim, and others cannot fly in (unless you have purchased an adjoing sim). So don't think you can have land from edge to edge, and you can still dip your toes into the surrounding ocean, you cannot.

Is there a way to "open" the borders on all four side to make the isle "public" in a way so someone can use a road to drive there, if your neighbour builds a road on his sim, too, that leads to yours? Or are those sims with shops where you can walk/drive to, no private isles? What is it then?
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Ricky Lucero
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Join date: 25 Jul 2006
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01-10-2007 08:23
From: Baba Zhao
Really important stuff there to know. I could not get Linden on the phone, so you are especially appreciated.


It's cause they're all fixing the ridiculous bugs in the system..... Actually, Let's just call it "trying to fix", since they don't ever REALLY fix anything big.
Elgyfu Wishbringer
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Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 659
01-10-2007 09:57
I never realised that if you had a harbour on an island with a boat in it, you can't actuallly sail anywhere off the sim? How odd. Islands aren't really islands, are they?
Wildefire Walcott
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Join date: 8 Nov 2005
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01-10-2007 12:42
From: Elgyfu Wishbringer
I never realised that if you had a harbour on an island with a boat in it, you can't actuallly sail anywhere off the sim? How odd. Islands aren't really islands, are they?

I THINK that if both islands are part of the same estate you can indeed cross sim borders to travel from one to the other. A couple of months ago I was wandering around a very high-traffic island, and I remember accidentally walking into the neighboring sim, where I checked About Land and discovered it was owned by the same person.
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Seraph Nephilim
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Join date: 28 Jan 2006
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01-10-2007 17:16
If you have permissions to enter both sims, then you can cross between them, so long as they share borders. I previously owned an island and a friend added a sim adjacent to it. It was his own island on his own estate. Crossing between the was the same as any other place -- with the typical sim crossing issues that we're seeing gridwide right now -- laggy transitions.
Zaphod Kotobide
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Join date: 19 Oct 2006
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01-13-2007 06:36
The deal with accessing ocean surrounding your sim is this:

For you to be able to interact with the world, it must be simulated. That means server resources applied to it. It would be impractical to simulate all the ocean surrounding all the private "islands" on the grid, not to mention extremely expensive on the part of LL. So there will likely never be a way to connect an island to the rest of the world, IE be able to drive/fly/sail.. all that space you would need to traverse would need to be simulated..