A Nod of My Hat to the Lindens

It's about time something was done about the ageplay menace on Second Life. I applaud Linden Labs on sticking up for common decency by banning these pedophiles.

But unfortunately, this just covers the tip of the iceberg. Second Life over the years has become a cesspool of filth, and I'm afraid that I must wag my finger at the Lindens for failing to address these issues.

Here's what I think the Lindens should make a top priority in the next few weeks:

Furries - I know this won't be a popular suggestion. But let's be honest, these "people" often engage in sexual activitives while disguised as animals. In other words, they're engaging in virtual bestiality. Bestiality is almost universally considered an obscene act, and is outlawed in just about every civilized jurisdiction.

Slavery - Once again, an act that is banned in just about every jurisdiction. And don't tell me that it's a form of "roleplay." There have been real life prosecutions (And convictions) for such "roleplaying." Slavery, no matter its form is a barbaric and illegal practice that should not be tolerated.

Prostitution - Even more prevalent than furries and slavery, but even more illegal. What makes this particularly bad is that REAL money is being exchanged. Linden dollars can be transferred into legal tender, thereby making virtual prostitution just as illegal as it is in the real world.

Gambling - See above.

Weapons and Violence - While this is a bit of a different note, I think it's just as relevant. There is a proven correlation between video game violence and real life violence. There is simply no need for weapons and/or violence in Second Life, and anyone caught engaging should be banned.

Hopefully, if we work together, we can convince Linden Labs that they have a responsibility, no a duty, to take care of these issues. All the above are considered universally despicable and/or illegal in modern civilized societies.

Just because these acts might be "virtual" or "don't actually exist" doesn't make them any less wrong. Your right to express yourself or fantasize ends when those thoughts could lead to real-life consequences.

I'm sick and tired of people thinking they can use Second Life to get away with actions they couldn't pull off in the real world. Join with me, and together, we can make Second Life a safe place to be.

who the hell died and made you the decider on what we can or can not do with our secondlife?

if i want to be a tied up escort fury that gambles, carries a gun then ill do that but its my choice i am over the age of 18 and will live my first life and second life how i see fit

its people like you that make me sick your zero tolerance of anything you dont find acceptable

you dont like seeing things dont go around it or go make some fairty tale game where you can play pretty pretty princes in a empty plastic bubble but you and those like you need to quit forcing your way of life on others

I can only guess that the parent post had a sarcasm tag that was filtered out by your browser. But then there is a point to anything and everything. For everything out there there is Someone who likes it to the point that is disturbing to others. And someone who hates it just as much. The question is who do you side with? Because if you change sides on any one topic your votes are invalid.

L2P?

This thread can't possibly appropriate for Resident Answers.

It promotes discrimination and censorship, and, considering the hugely debated points that you represent one-sidedly... it is, intended or not, effectively a trolling post.

If you're going to try to make SL a "safer place", please do so in ways that don't threaten the enjoyable activities of your peers in world... or violate the terms of service.

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Those that promote censorship should start with themselves.

Gambling and prostitution and their RL counterparts are not protected in any form, adults are concidered to make responsible decisions in their real lifes. Yes in many parts of the world gambling and Prositution is illegal, but this due to religeous fanatisism and not to protect a person. Its tio protect the communities ideologies

Slavery, well you have to look at the broader scope, indebted to service of others, servant, service. your local waitress that you dont even give 10% top even though you have worked her to near death is slavery too, its far from outlawed, futhermore, since the begining of time, and will be till the end of time, you have dominate and passive people, they both tend to the others needs, this is mutual leader/follower relationship, and shouldnt be considered wrong

Just as note, IM not furry, not a prostitute, not a gambler, not a child and definately not in any master/slave relationship

Just my thoughts:

Second Life generally IS a place to come to do things you either can't or won't do in Real Life.
All Residents in SL are supposed to be of legal age.If not, then that is a problem the Lindens have to address.
What consenting adults do in private is none of my business.
Property owners are responsible for what goes on in their areas. If it offends me , I don't visit there.

Again, just my opinion. I don't have any quarrel with those that differ.

Huh, I just thought the original post was meant to be ironic...it doesn't seem likely that anyone who was actually so vehemently opposed to all of those activities would have lasted almost 2 years in SL. *shrug*

Plus, the OP apparently makes weapons...

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Does SL have a place where we can discuss this and not be subject to Resident Answers issue. While this is simply a form the residents are answering I feel that we need a spot where we can talk in general.. debate... etc.

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At the rate they are going, why stop there? Why not eliminate ALL customized content and avatars, require all users to pick from a sanitized and limited selection of Human figures dressed in busiiness-appropriate attire that can not be removed, and rename the place as "Second Job - Your virtual business center". Ban everything else.

Oh, wait...

That's been around for years. It's called Microsoft NetMeeting. Even has RL voice built in!
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This forum isn't for general discussion; there are many Resident Sites where this discussion is appropriate, and you can also talk about it inworld — Resident Answers is for Resident-to-Resident help. I'll close this thread...

if the OP was serious.... then I wonder what LL will do when aprox 30-150 islands become abandoned, Anshe looses like half or more of her Plush sim tennets, a good third of the econimy of SL dries up...

But hey... if what the OP wants, happens... Those few who still are in SL will see 30k residents for the listing of people logged in for the last week (or month) instead of online currently...

After all, when you vehemitly want 65% of SL's econimy banned and removed from the grid... what do you expect but to see the grid go down the toilet...

Ditto.

Not only that but if you do not like what you are seeing, go buy your own island/land and set your own rules there and you don't have to visit these places that you feel are inappropriate. Do you know how many people consent to these things in RL? You can't walk down the street and zoom your cam into someones house to see it, but there ARE ppl who are into sexual slavery and do gamble behind closed doors and do questionable things to animals not to mention children (not that I approve). You can protest all day long about it but you cannot catch everyone unfortunatley.

My point is you cannot stop all the crime that happens in RL so what is the use of making a big deal out of what is going on in a virtual world where you have no idea who is behind an avatar? For all you know some guy might be sitting with 2 computers logged into both accounts having furry sex with himself!

There's so much going on in SL that you cannot control. My advice to the initial poster is to find your own "groove" in SL and do what makes YOU happy.
(Hope you don't mind me borrowing your line CM )

If you try different things in SL that you would not normally try in RL you might be surprised at what you really DO like and what makes YOU happy.

The one thing that truly offends me and makes me morally outraged, is someone who tries to tell me what I should be truly offended and morally outraged about.

Why doesn't LL provide a general discussion forum? Or a debate forum or anything that involves actual policy? For me I the ageplay isn't a all around solution for this discussion but a location where we can discuss SL and LL policy would be something that is appropriate to request.

This forum isn't for general discussion; there are many Resident Sites where this discussion is appropriate — Resident Answers is for Resident-to-Resident help. I'll close this thread...





Why isn't there a General Discussion forum? Because when we had one there was this tendency for people to ignore the Forum Guidelines and Community Standards to the detriment of the community.


Torley Linden:
This thread remains locked for the reasons above.