Selling parcels on private estates
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Helena Lycia
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07-02-2006 03:10
Does anyone know how this facility will affect sim & tier monthly fees, for both the sim owner and the parcel buyer? Will it be as simple as the parcel buy will assume a direct proportion of the teir cost in relation to the parcel size?
Also what options will the sim owner have if she wants to buy back a parcel? Will there be some sort of compulsory purchase option?
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Haravikk Mistral
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07-02-2006 03:15
I'm really curious about this too, ideally the tier payment of the parcel owner should offset the sim cost as you say, so if I sell 1/4er of my sim's land I only pay 3/4ers the monthly fee. That would be great and make simulators more attractive options for people who maybe don't need a whole simulator to do what they want.
And a buy-back option would be important I think, perhaps if the sim owner can buy back the land at the price that was paid for it? If we're going to be able to use convenants to define rules for land use, then we need a way to take back that land if the owner is abusing it. Ideally we could just take back the land, as someone who is abusing rules of that land's ownership really forfeits right to the land, but the possibility of abuse is rather high there.
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-02-2006 03:59
This may just make the current bookkeeping simpler for Anshe... I mean the sim owner, so they don't need to provide their own "rental boxes" and play the group-officer dance.
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Kelly Linden
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07-02-2006 08:26
The estate owner will still pay all the tier. The person buying the land needs only pay the original selling price, and any deal they work out with the estate owner - they need no tier.
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Haravikk Mistral
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07-04-2006 15:31
No offence, but that doesn't seem worth implementing as a feature since you still need some mechanism in order to deal with repeat payments, at which point you may as well have a rent-box or a group dealing with it anyway  Why can't the tier system just be done away-with so that you pay USD$X for the land you own, and deduct that from the sim-owner's bill? This would be much easier, and probably encourage people to own more land, since paying for half a sim when you only own slightly more than a quarter is silly IMO. That way people can buy what they can afford, instead of making cut-backs and not buying at all. Then you just have tier that someone is paying on land in your sim deducted from your sim costs. It's nice, it's easy and it's flexible allowing people to buy what they went instead of not buying anything. Really land is the real product in SL, but it isn't as accessible as it could be? =S Then your system could allow for mark-up on land, ie a USD fee for rent charged end of each month with tier (which the player would be expressly warned of before buying, and can't be changed without their consent, only terminated with the land). THAT would be estate land management 
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Shaun Wallaby
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07-07-2006 13:22
From: Kelly Linden The estate owner will still pay all the tier. The person buying the land needs only pay the original selling price, and any deal they work out with the estate owner - they need no tier. Seems like a worthless feature by doing that. What's the point? It will be nice to have it as an automated rental system or effect tier.
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Angel Fluffy
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07-16-2006 05:06
Bump. This topic deserves more attention.
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Alan Edison
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07-16-2006 07:56
From: Haravikk Mistral No offence, but that doesn't seem worth implementing as a feature since you still need some mechanism in order to deal with repeat payments, at which point you may as well have a rent-box or a group dealing with it anyway  Why can't the tier system just be done away-with so that you pay USD$X for the land you own, and deduct that from the sim-owner's bill? This would be much easier, and probably encourage people to own more land, since paying for half a sim when you only own slightly more than a quarter is silly IMO. That way people can buy what they can afford, instead of making cut-backs and not buying at all. Then you just have tier that someone is paying on land in your sim deducted from your sim costs. It's nice, it's easy and it's flexible allowing people to buy what they went instead of not buying anything. Really land is the real product in SL, but it isn't as accessible as it could be? =S Then your system could allow for mark-up on land, ie a USD fee for rent charged end of each month with tier (which the player would be expressly warned of before buying, and can't be changed without their consent, only terminated with the land). THAT would be estate land management  yea, liek the option to set up a direct debit thing with the sim owner where the sim owner can set a price per month on a parcel, when you buy you agree (via a box in sl, not a verbal agreement) to allow the SL program remove xL$ from ur account and put it in the sim owners account
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Angel Fluffy
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07-16-2006 08:38
From: Alan Edison yea, liek the option to set up a direct debit thing with the sim owner where the sim owner can set a price per month on a parcel, when you buy you agree (via a box in sl, not a verbal agreement) to allow the SL program remove xL$ from ur account and put it in the sim owners account That would be nice, but what would be even nicer is the ability to bill tennants a fixed amount of USD monthly, and have the proceeds credited to our USD balance (or L$ balance if we prefer). This would be better as it means we don't have to handle the exchange rate conversions ourselves, we don't have to go to the hassle of selling the L$ ourselves, and we hopefully don't have to pay the 3.5% LL selling fee (I can dream  . It's very disheartening if someone buys 375USD's worth of land from you, then the Lindens they buy for that price work out to have a sell value of about 340 USD  So, yeah : 1) billing of "whatever X amount of USD translates to in Lindens" to residents who agree to it, monthly. 2) option of crediting proceeds to L$ or USD balance. 3) should kick in when tennant rents/buys the land. 4) anti-griefer protection... only sim owners should be able to setup these monthly debits from another person's account with the target's permission, to prevent griefer scams etc.
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