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Kitto Flora

Elf boy.

Join date: 29 May 2004

Posts: 29

04-14-2006 12:08

First impression is this is the worst update yet. FPS is 1/3rd of what I get on main grid. An no, I don't think its due to old sim machines. Sim fps is same as main grind (45 fps) but my client FPS drops from 30FPS on main grid to 11 FPS in preview. In the WA its 5FPS ! Awful.
Attempts to change settings to increase FPS have resulted in the ground turning black, and I cant get it visible again.

Yes, I bug reported it.

Awful.

[Update: Black ground fixed by turning Preferences, Graphics, Enable Vertex Shaders 'off' - de-tick it. .. Humm - this was a problem in 1.9.0 and we turned it off. Is the distribution defalt 'on'? Might be a bad choice.) Frame rate with Sun/Moon, or Nearby Local is now good (23FPS in Morris) but with either All Local * frame rate pulses down to 4 FPS and the display is jerky.]

Alondria LeFay

Registered User

Join date: 2 May 2003

Posts: 725

04-14-2006 12:11

I had a general drop down to < 1 fps, until I realized they snuck on Lighting and Vertex Shaders - upon deactivating these, I was better until I tried to fly around Miramare. I ended up completely locking up for a few seconds every few seconds as long as I moved, which I suspect is due to the octree calculations - I kept getting debug messages about the octree being huge. End result - more or less unusable in Miramare.

Eep Quirk

Absolutely Relative

Join date: 15 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,211

04-14-2006 13:17

Try disabling occlusion via debug menu. Not all video cards support vertex shaders well so you may have to run at reduced light settings to get an acceptable framerate. To get 1.9.1 to be like 1.9, disable vertex shaders and occlusion culling (ctrl+shift+o), set light to "all local lights (SW)". Looks like old-style shadows were removed and don't think they can be gotten back without enabling "all local lights (+ shadows)".

more lighting tips/details

Ron Overdrive

Registered User

Join date: 10 Jul 2005

Posts: 1,002

04-14-2006 14:27

local lighting is wierd for me.. I entered the sim of Grignano and my FPS dropped to aroudn 6 FPS. Now the only light sources there are Sun & Moon and Transparencies (the base 2 light sources) and HW local lighting degraded my performance. Turned on SW local lighting like Eep suggested and my framerate doubled. Ok odd, here I told by Milo Linden that SW lighting is the old 1.9.0 local lighting. Enter Morris and my framerate plumits to 2 till I enable HW lighting wich brought it back up to 8 - 9 FPS.

Now Grignano only had to 2 base light sources and Morris had tons of light sources. So why was HW lighting slower in Grignano and faster in Morris?

My setup is an AMD Anthlon XP Mobile 2600+ (1.9ghz) (no I'm not using a laptop, newegg sent me a laptop cpu by mistake), 1 gig DDR ram, an overclocked GeForceFX 5500 256MB AGP card running the latest NGO Optimized Drivers & profile tweaks.

Worst 'update' yet.
Kitto Flora Elf boy. Join date: 29 May 2004 Posts: 29	04-14-2006 12:08 First impression is this is the worst update yet. FPS is 1/3rd of what I get on main grid. An no, I don't think its due to old sim machines. Sim fps is same as main grind (45 fps) but my client FPS drops from 30FPS on main grid to 11 FPS in preview. In the WA its 5FPS ! Awful. Attempts to change settings to increase FPS have resulted in the ground turning black, and I cant get it visible again. Yes, I bug reported it. Awful. [Update: Black ground fixed by turning Preferences, Graphics, Enable Vertex Shaders 'off' - de-tick it. .. Humm - this was a problem in 1.9.0 and we turned it off. Is the distribution defalt 'on'? Might be a bad choice.) Frame rate with Sun/Moon, or Nearby Local is now good (23FPS in Morris) but with either All Local * frame rate pulses down to 4 FPS and the display is jerky.]
Alondria LeFay Registered User Join date: 2 May 2003 Posts: 725	04-14-2006 12:11 I had a general drop down to < 1 fps, until I realized they snuck on Lighting and Vertex Shaders - upon deactivating these, I was better until I tried to fly around Miramare. I ended up completely locking up for a few seconds every few seconds as long as I moved, which I suspect is due to the octree calculations - I kept getting debug messages about the octree being huge. End result - more or less unusable in Miramare.
Eep Quirk Absolutely Relative Join date: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,211	04-14-2006 13:17 Try disabling occlusion via debug menu. Not all video cards support vertex shaders well so you may have to run at reduced light settings to get an acceptable framerate. To get 1.9.1 to be like 1.9, disable vertex shaders and occlusion culling (ctrl+shift+o), set light to "all local lights (SW)". Looks like old-style shadows were removed and don't think they can be gotten back without enabling "all local lights (+ shadows)". more lighting tips/details
Ron Overdrive Registered User Join date: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,002	04-14-2006 14:27 local lighting is wierd for me.. I entered the sim of Grignano and my FPS dropped to aroudn 6 FPS. Now the only light sources there are Sun & Moon and Transparencies (the base 2 light sources) and HW local lighting degraded my performance. Turned on SW local lighting like Eep suggested and my framerate doubled. Ok odd, here I told by Milo Linden that SW lighting is the old 1.9.0 local lighting. Enter Morris and my framerate plumits to 2 till I enable HW lighting wich brought it back up to 8 - 9 FPS. Now Grignano only had to 2 base light sources and Morris had tons of light sources. So why was HW lighting slower in Grignano and faster in Morris? My setup is an AMD Anthlon XP Mobile 2600+ (1.9ghz) (no I'm not using a laptop, newegg sent me a laptop cpu by mistake), 1 gig DDR ram, an overclocked GeForceFX 5500 256MB AGP card running the latest NGO Optimized Drivers & profile tweaks.

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