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Niggling Mac UB (21) Bugs: Sound turns on when changing preferences & others

Simon Nolan
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Join date: 28 Mar 2006
Posts: 157
04-06-2006 04:46
First of all, the Mac Universal Binary is FREAKIN' AWESOME! But there are a few small things that are bothering me. I'm continuing to see a minor bug when making a change to preferences. If you are on land that has streaming sound, THE FIRST TIME you apply a change in preferences, the streaming sound begins playing. Subsequent applications of changes do not restart the sound if it was stopped after closing the preferences panel or stopping the sound with the panel open.

Also, I'm not sure if this is a bug, more likely a feature request, but it would be nice if the Camera Controls and Movement Controls panels would remember their state between launches of the program. At present they revert to not shown when re-launching the viewer.

Aaannnddd, it would be nice if the Sound Control and Movie Control panels could be moved from their default locations at the center-bottom of the window. ;)

Finally, and this probably isn't a niggling bug, but after being logged in for a few hours, and especially if having visited quite a few different regions, it seems that performance has degraded significantly as compared to performance when first logged in. Quitting the viewer causes the spinning beachball as the viewer flushes memory or performs garbage collection. When quitting the program soon (ie < 5 mins) after logging in, there doesn't seem to be the same effect, especially if graphics parameters are set low for performance. Seems to be a memory leak or something.

System Info:
Machine Name: iMac
Machine Model: iMac4,1
CPU Type: Intel Core Duo
Number Of Cores: 2
CPU Speed: 1.83 GHz
L2 Cache (shared): 2 MB
Memory: 512 MB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM41.0039.B00
SMC Version: 1.1f2
Hard Drive: 160GB (148GB), 80GB free
Video: ATI Radeon X1600 128MB
Resolution: 1440 x 900
Depth: 32-bit Color
Network: 1.5Mbps DSL, cabled (not Wireless)
Aaron Levy
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Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,147
04-06-2006 07:42
The sound coming on if you make a change in prefences is actually a bug present in the Windows version, too, and has been for a verylong time. At least since June 2004, when I joined SL.
Zorin Frobozz
Registered User
Join date: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 84
04-06-2006 12:51
When I first got my Macbook Pro, I had 1GB of memory and witnessed the problem you describe. Basically, SL's memory consumption goes up rapidly as you use it. It gets worse in areas that have a lot of large textures (such as malls, Luskwood when lots of furry avatars are around, and so on).

When you don't have much memory, SL's memory consumption causes lots of the running OS code to become swapped out. The more time it runs, the more gets swapped out, and when you eventually quit, the system will be quite sluggish for a while as those pages are brought back into memory.

You have HALF the memory I had at first, so I can imagine it's pretty bad. Even with 1GB, I'd get a lot of paging while playing in texture-rich areas. I'd turn around and it would slog at less than one frame per second as the system swaps textures back in.

After upgrading to 2GB of RAM, these problems went away completely. Consider upgrading your memory; it's the best way to make OSX fly. RAM is cheap right now!

-Zorin "the Lynx" Frobozz


From: Simon Nolan

Finally, and this probably isn't a niggling bug, but after being logged in for a few hours, and especially if having visited quite a few different regions, it seems that performance has degraded significantly as compared to performance when first logged in. Quitting the viewer causes the spinning beachball as the viewer flushes memory or performs garbage collection. When quitting the program soon (ie < 5 mins) after logging in, there doesn't seem to be the same effect, especially if graphics parameters are set low for performance. Seems to be a memory leak or something.
Jonatan Shaftoe
Registered User
Join date: 18 Mar 2005
Posts: 2
04-14-2006 12:25
Oops. Will sure be interesting to see how my brand new Mac mini Core Solo with stock 512MB stacks up to the fight... Could it possibly be better than the (sadly pretty sucky) performance of my 2-year-old PB1.5GHz (Radeon 9700 128MB)?
Simon Nolan
I can has ur primz?
Join date: 28 Mar 2006
Posts: 157
04-17-2006 10:35
From: Zorin Frobozz
After upgrading to 2GB of RAM, these problems went away completely. Consider upgrading your memory; it's the best way to make OSX fly. RAM is cheap right now!


Thanks for 'splainin' all this... I'll be maxing my RAM very soon. Need it to help performance of Parallels Workstation (for Windows on Mac, in a window), and 512MB ain't cutting it there, either.
Ninja Kawabata
Registered User
Join date: 6 Nov 2005
Posts: 135
Memory
04-17-2006 10:57
I just got my first Mac, Its a Powerbook Pro with 2.164Ghz CPU and 2 gigs of ram and I have not seen any problems so far even after being on for over 4 hours at a time, perhaps as the other person said having the extra memory is the cure.
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Zorin Frobozz
Registered User
Join date: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 84
04-18-2006 07:50
From: Jonatan Shaftoe
Oops. Will sure be interesting to see how my brand new Mac mini Core Solo with stock 512MB stacks up to the fight... Could it possibly be better than the (sadly pretty sucky) performance of my 2-year-old PB1.5GHz (Radeon 9700 128MB)?


Mac Mini has a decent CPU, but a lousy video chipset; you will get crappy performance from SL.

Right now the best bet for SL Macintosh performance is the Intel iMacs or Macbook Pro.

If you're buying a machine JUST for SL, you'll save money just swallowing your pride and going for a generic wintel box.

-Zorin "the lynx" Frobozz